Yarram yowie pictures

[Beastman]

http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-repo ... arram-ape/

[ozestrange]

My ?? meter is going into overload.
Jeremy says [quote]I saw this thing crossing the track at a rather fast pace... It crossed the track from left to right and was out of sight. I didn’t hear any noise, [/quote]
It would taken a few seconds for him to realise he was looking at something odd-then he has to stop the car-then he has to grab the camera and turn it on-then a few seconds later he zooms in on auto focus I assume and gets the shot off and then wobbles the camera for the second shot.
Sorry, there is no way in hell anyone could do that in the few seconds available.
Digital cameras do not work that quickly.
How could he have heard any noise.?
Photos of the tracks..?
[quote]Since i took the pictures a lady from madayla which is 13kms from where i saw the ape thing rang me a told me her and her husband had seen something similar. [/quote]
Wow, the mystery "witness" must have known him and his phone number because he was not listed in the phone book, what are the odds.
[quote]as I dont want to be in the public as a focus of rididcule[/quote]
Then why go to the local media with your story-give your real name and let them take your photo-do a search on the net-find posts about it and send better photos...
He will probably pop up in here next, whats the bet.??

[Beastman]

The clear photo doesn't look right - there's something very odd about the shape of the object and the way it is posed.
Oddly enough the blurred picture is more "convincing". It sort of looks like a bonobo to me, the shape and the pose are strangely similar.

[Dean Harrison]

It all seems rather strange to me. Firstly, I can barely make out what it is in the first place - could be anything.

But to see 'something' comming out on the road at a 'fast pace' in front of you while your driving and have time to digest what your looking at, locate a digital camera in the car, turn it on and let it power up, point the camera and auto focus and take two shots in milliseconds of one another is impossible.

(Anyone who owns a basic digital camera knows that it can take quite a few seconds before you can take the next shot).

I find it very hard to believe that anyone can do all of the above (seeing it, mentally digesting it, maintaining composure and thinking clearly, locating a camera, having time to allow it to power up, take aim, auto focus and reel off two pictures), all within 2 or 3 seconds.

DMH

[Elktipper]

Anyone who has taken an art class and studied perspective or spent any time hunting animals can easily tell that the so called "Yowie/Bigfoot" is totally out of perspective with the trees in the background and the small tree sapling on the left side of the road. This Yowie in the picture I assume is to be somewhere around 7 to 8 feet. Not possible in that picture. The bend in the road can't be more than 100 yards. It looks like the camera man had his baby brother in a halloween costume cross the road to set up this shot. He will have to do better than that!

[ozestrange]

Where was Tim the yowie man aka Tim Warwick Bull when the shot was taken.?
He owns a gorilla suit.
Bull.... and Piper filmed the "famous" Piper footage and Bull sold it to channel 9.

[ianSA]

yarram and these ranges-where exactly is this spot and is it covered in this style of forest and hilly with a very well made and wide logging track/road-this is no back woods track single lane goat track.
can anyone even vouch for the location and its surroundings
what state is this?
not the sryzlecki track in centre australia thats for sure!!
ianSA

[Stormfreak]

The Strezelecki region takes in the spectacular Strzelecki Ranges in the South of Gippsland and the magnificent Grand Ridge Road that traverses its entire length.

A unique tourist road off the beaten track, meandering along the top of the Strzelecki ridge to provide spectacular views south to the Ninety Mile Beach and Wilsons Promontory and north across the Latrobe Valley and extending over the Warragul plateau area to the Great Dividing Range and Mount Baw Baw.

On the west it is bordered for a short distance by Mount Worth State Park, a young mountain ash and wattle forest with more than its share of native birds and animals and some fine picnic spots.
As it snakes through a scenic pathway and patches of dense rain forest along the high ridges, it passes through many of the prettiest towns and villages, that can't be seen from the major highway routes.

Mirboo North, with the popular Grand Ridge Brewery is the biggest town on the road and is the centre of an extensive dairying, beef cattle and sheep area. Near the small settlement of Balook is the tiny Tarra Bulga National Park, of rain forest and fern clad valleys. Some of Victoria's finest tree ferns are here and a walk over the suspension bridge and nature trail may recall some of the parks beautiful birds and native animals, and with the waterfall on the upper reaches of the Tarra River, you couldn't ask for a more "back to nature" park. From here it follows a winding south-westerly route, traversing beautiful hill country for much of its length and ending near Carrajung.

Great part of Victoria.We head down that way several times a year.
Linds

[topender]

Ive got to say Madayla is a strange place, lots of strange s*#t goes on there, i lived there in the 60's with my granmother, scary place, i still have the images in my head of what was looking through our window late one night when i was 10. we used to go out every morning to count all the dead sheep or how many sheep were missing, in the end we gave up trying to run sheep there from memory.

[Dion]

Ive got to say Madayla is a strange place, lots of strange s*#t goes on there, i lived there in the 60's with my granmother, scary place, i still have the images in my head of what was looking through our window late one night when i was 10. we used to go out every morning to count all the dead sheep or how many sheep were missing, in the end we gave up trying to run sheep there from memory.

Sounds like a prime spot for an enthusiastic cryptozoologist

[Pam]

I must be really gullible or something because I thought it was a great photo. And there must be baby bigfoots. I spent years and years in the bush every day riding, that is how I saw my yowie and the footprints. I can't see a kangaroo in that pic at all and I see them all the time. Of course he might have set up a hoax but then the pics would be better wouldn't they? The thing about being in the bush all the time is that you realise (a) just how much there is (b) how you have to be REALLY lucky to spot something because everything that lives in the bush is much cleverer than you so if you see something it is because it is preoccupied, downwind or whatever (c) many animals don't flee when they see a car so if you stay in it they will remain but try getting out to take a pic and they will be off. If this was a hoax, why didn't he get out of the car?

I realise that anyone can set up a hoax. I also know from my own experience that there is something out there, and if there is one there are more. I didn't have anything to prove when I saw mine, I just thought "Oh a gorilla must have escaped from a circus or zoo."

So keep an open mind guys!!!

[topender]

I personally do believe that eastern victoria is prime Yowie country, rugged and well protected, i have many memories of the area in the Tarra valley and would love to live/be/stay there again, but i am now a topend territorian, so i will be active in the pursuit of our hairy homonid up here.
Almost all of the discussions on the site recommend no fire sticks ( guns ); when out in the territory bush i have always carried my trusty lever action when anywhere isolated, just in case of pigs of which we have lots of big ones, this wll be a hard habit to break.
Yowies i suspect are smart enough to recognise a firearm and therefore stay away or very quiet, do people of the Yowie-ology group recomend those new torches with the multiple tiny little bulbs ? ( their name eludes me ) they seem to pack more punch than your average torch, they would certainly hurt sensitive eyes and offer some degree of protection.

cheers all

[Stainmaster]

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[folcrom]

Please note that a "wide logging road" does not make an area "not a back woods".

There are plenty of wide logging roads in the the Gippsland region. Some of them see very little if any traffic.
There are also very good wide logging roads around Noojee and Walhalla. Both areas with several good yowie sightings.

Some very remote areas in Victoria are criss-crossed with logging roads.

So logging roads do not preclude the possibility of Yowies being present.

Folcrom.

[topender]

That's very true, Nth Eastern VIC as well is riddled with logging roads and still reports come out of there

[Jo Blose]

What an incredibly poor interview!!

A close examination of the two photos reveals they were taken from the exact same position (despite the blurs to photo 2!). It also reveals they were likely taken through the front windscreen due to the tip of the bonnet showing, and light refraction in the glass.

The interview does not clarify what speed the witness had been driving at, whether he had come to a complete stop before taking the photos, the type of camera he used, if he was wearing sunglasses at the time, an estimate of the number of seconds it took to cross the road, or why he had a camera with him in the car. It also does not offer an explanation from the witness for the clarity of photo 1 as opposed to the 'blur' of photo 2.

How can the balance of probability for or against these photos validity be weighed without answers to fundamental technical questions? There are a trillion ways those photos could be faked, which is why all the circumstances around the taking of the photos, are so vital.

[folcrom]

Lots of unanswered questions. Most of which need answering.

However, I wouldn't be worrying about "why" they had a camera in their car though.
These days most people have a camera with them in some form or another.

Example:
It's not unusual for me to have at least 3 cameras with me when I go somewhere.
My wife's phone camera. plus her digital camera is always in her hand bag as well.
Then there's my camera, which is nearly always with me.
Quite often my kids will also have a camera with them as well.
All of which are cheap digital, none of which are image stabalised (fuzzy photos are common).

So these days, having a camera in the car, is not unusual.
I'd say it's more unusual not to have one handy these days.
Fuzzy photos aren't unual these days either.
Lot's of my wifes and kids photos turn out fuzzy and they're just family snaps.

Still, more details on the other unanswered questions would be nice.

Cheers

Folcrom.

[Jo Blose]

I appreciate that folcrom, so the answer would be what, he keeps a fully charged automatic camera on his front passenger seat everywhere he drives...
If his story is as he says it, he had no time to be fumbling around with mobile phones, napsacks, or digging around for his camera on the backseat. He was in the area in search of yabbies and trout - maybe he likes to photograph his catches?

[folcrom]

Hi Joe

I wouldn't say that was the answer. Why the camera was in the car would be to a degree, unimportant.
People often have cameras with them these days.

As for having fully charged batteries, again largely unimportant.
I have cameras that still work on minimal charge, enough to take two or three photos anyway.
I also charge all the camera batteries before I go out, whether I intend to use the camera or not.

You never know when something interesting might pop up.
Even if its just one of the kids doing something silly or catching a fish or what-ever.
Mind you, coming across a Yowie would be a bonus.

Some questions would be:

What type of camera?
(Knowing this could explain the poor quality of the images)
(Also some cameras take time to boot up, mine takes about 20 seconds)

Where was the camera kept in the car?
(Knowing this could aslo explain why there weren't more photos and why they had so little time)

I've fumbled my camera many times just taking photos of the kids and my wife generally takes very fuzzy photos as well.
If I was ever lucky enough to see a Yowie stray across my path,
I hate to think of how badly I'd fumble the camera or how horrible the quality of image would be.

Unfortunately, Yowies don't generally present themselve to fully prepared and professionally trained photographers.
It would be nice if they could more convenient.
Alas, that's their nature, cryptic.

Cheers

Folcrom