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Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:14 pm
by Renee
Hi all, just wondering if anyone knows or has any thoughts in regard to the closure of the Mt. Warning (Wollumbin) summit track in northern NSW? I just had an odd thought that perhaps there was more to it than it being closed due to being an important cultural site for the local indigenous community. I even read somewhere that the Mt. Warning we know is not actually “Wollumbin” at all, and that in fact Wollumbin is a nearby mountain and Mt. Warning does not hold particular significance to local indigenous communities, other than the fact that is looks somewhat like a bush turkey against the horizon. Where I’m going with this... (thanks for bearing with me) is, well, do you think there’s something we’re not meant to find up there - in the context of so many yowie sightings in the area over the years?
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 9:47 pm
by David
I'm sure we can get a little paranoid when it comes to government land closures.. having said that if there was some factor the government wanted hidden or some threat posed that would panic the public the government has a myriad of excuses that we the public will accept without question.
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 9:07 am
by Renee
David wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 9:47 pm
I'm sure we can get a little paranoid when it comes to government land closures.. having said that if there was some factor the government wanted hidden or some threat posed that would panic the public the government has a myriad of excuses that we the public will accept without question.
Thanks for your reply David. I agree that with you on both accounts. I think that once your world is turned upside down by the realisation that there most probably is something out there, as has recently happened to me, it’s easy to look at everything through “yowie” lenses. I just can’t help but think there’s more to it. The area has a rich aboriginal history and the tale of the yowie living in that area is woven deep into aboriginal folklore. Maybe I just want to believe this idea that the government knows something we don’t.
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 1:05 pm
by David
I agree Renee. Someone knows something. The standard method of operation for denial is ridicule or silence. I note with Dean's Team's recent thermal footage that there is a deafening silence. It is difficult to ridicule so there is "radio silence" regarding it. This is so unusual.. usually at least the Daily Mail would be reporting. Dean's footage would have the powers that be worried.
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 2:11 pm
by Renee
I could not agree more - I find it incredibly hard to believe that nothing has come out in the media in regard to such incredible footage. And what a welcome story it would be and a contrast to over a years’ worth or reporting about COVID-19 and impending “war” with China.
Where are the media?
Two weeks ago I had only heard of yowies a couple of times and the concept barely entered my thoughts. I used to live out in Tallebudgera Valley and heard through the grapevine about the family over the ridge (in Currumbin valley) who reported being terrorised by a yowie over the course of several nights. I thought they were all on crack.
Fast forward to several years later and my husband and I are in absolute hysterics watching Dean and the Team’s first thermal image footage and their expedition on the Strickland track. I thought “how funny are these guys” and “holy s**t they sure are committed to the joke”.
Then I see the second video - the explanation video and I am a believer - just like that. Since then I have been watching everything I can on the subject and trying to educate myself as I think this is going to be a huge bombshell and very public knowledge in the next 10-20 years. If someone like me can have that reaction, where is everyone?
You’re right, something smells fishy. It’s like deliberate silence. And I also kind of get that feeling about the whole Mt. Warning thing. There’s a Facebook group trying to get the summit track reopened and there are a lot of interesting articles and a lot of silence from the government and local council on the matter.
Again, very easy to look at the world through this new lens of mine. Yowies. Who’d have thought?
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:24 pm
by David
Welcome aboard Renee. A well known yowie researcher coined the term "once that once you become 'yowie aware' it all becomes pretty obvious that there is something very real living in the great dividing range.
Witness reports gathered by AYR are key. It is left to the listener to determine the credibility of the testimony. I have now met dozens of real life people who have encountered these creatures..
They are out there and the more we encroach on their habitat the more frequently we will encounter them. I actually believe that if the insurance companies demanded car cameras as an essential accessory we would have excellent chances of road encounter footage.
Thermals will sort this. They know we are blind at night. I have had a few occasions when I could hear them but not see them although they were close. Wait for the thermal to come where they are only meters away.
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 4:35 pm
by Renee
Well I for one can’t wait for that day. Don’t get me wrong, I’d probably regret it if I ever actually saw one in person unless it was from behind a bulletproof glass window inside a heavily armoured military tank. However I’d happily watch along in my armchair while someone else nearly runs over one and gets the footage on their dashcam or gets up close and personal with a thermal camera.
I reckon people thought the likes of the silverback gorilla were the stuff of myth/nightmare until someone actually documented/filmed one and they were assigned a genus and species.
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 10:45 pm
by Tuckeroo
Hi Renee, I was wondering myself if the track had been permanently closed on Mt Warning.
It was suggested a while back in the Byron Echo News. I wouldn’t jump to conclusions
regarding the closure being Yowie related but it is a possibility.
Also as you reasoned in your post, the folklore of the traditional custodians.
Also as more people go there now it's a liability for parks and police during bushfires
and storms and the cost of maintaining the track by National Parks.
It’s steep and remote. Imaging lugging tools up there to work or the
expense of a helicopter drop.
As far as the government authorities acknowledging our hairy friends roaming about the bush,
I’ve never heard of anything leaked out by retired senior public servants and the like
of their existence. Unless there's a secret department in government, the men in black
so to speak who are sworn to absolute secrecy.
It’s here I acknowledge David’s post concerning ‘who knows what’ maybe so.
I do wonder to what extent Dean and co have presented the thermal footage to the MSM.
I question this yearning everyone has of Yowies being accepted as real living things
by the general population. Maybe because we question our own lunacy
believing in such things. I say keep it to ourselves, bugger the philistines.
I see you’ve been bitten by the cryptid bug, it's a very interesting subject.
T.
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Thu May 20, 2021 9:10 pm
by Austral
I was thinking along these lines when i went to Beauchamp falls last week and the entrance had a big sign stating “ closed ,entry strictly prohibited “ and two blokes in a Toyota ( with a ered number plate) were at the entrance. They recon there was logging going on but as soon as they said that i looked at the road and it was very wet but had no tyre tracks at all . Yeah, i know ! There probably was logging going on.
By the way, my wife and me walked about 30 or so kms over three days in the Otways and went along way into the bush in constant rain. That place has a very eerie feel about it when your deep into it. We actually followed a big game trail that crossed the walking track near Triplet falls for about a mile until we both got a bad feeling , we couldnt see prints of any kind because it was all slush and leaves but there was bark worn off tree roots all along it.
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:20 am
by Renee
Well, it’s official. It seems the track is being closed permanently, even though there’s a divide amongst local First Nations people on whether this is the right call.
The first place that is touched by sunlight on the Australian mainland. Closed to us forever.
So saddened by this.
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:41 am
by Hbr
I've travelled through that area many times this year (more than 8, off the top of my head) from the gold coast towards the south, past Mt. Warning, inland towards Lismore. It's absolutely beautiful. There are certain valleys where you definitely get an intuitive vibe that they are there.
As for the track being closed, well... How can I put this as eloquently as possible... Stuff the authorities! Just go where you want, but be aware that you may be in trouble if you get caught and bring a GPS and hire/bring a satellite phone. Have the intention of being respectful of the place and the Yowies. That is key. If you go in there with that intention (instead of trying to hunt them) you stand a better chance of having an experience. Have you ever noticed that people who have encounters are those who have absolutely no intention of looking for them?
Re: Mt. Warning track closure
Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 4:28 pm
by Grantly
Hbr wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:41 am
How can I put this as eloquently as possible... Stuff the authorities!
Exactly.