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I posted this question on the BFF site in USA. The reason being that panthers(big cats have been seen in the general areas of yowie sightings)
The response I got was quite good there were posts stating that panthers had been seen with the Bigfoot.

One particular sighting was when a person heard the chooks going of outside in the coop and went to investigate and shone the flood light on and there were 2 panthers outside the chicken cage and instepped the BF to protect the panthers.
Another story gtoes that a guy had witnessed a BF with 2 panthers walking along together over arise .
Why is it that these animals are together or in the same general area

Sustainable habitats that are vast enough to conceal such animals.

DMH

That wasn't the question I asked.

You asked - "Why is it that these animals are together or in the same general area?"

I can't say why they would be walking side by side or why a BF would stand out and protect them. Some say the Yowie and BF are protectors of the bush? The story could be total BS? I don't know...... Sounds very unusual.

My answer was in response to the second part of your question which is why they would be seen in the same general area?

You'll also find Thylacine sightings in the same area. These areas are usually vast, dense and rugged locations where you can survive your entire existence without being found or being subjected to the threat of man. Sometimes they venture out of these areas and are seen. That would be my hypothesis.

DMH

Hi Yowiie

As far as Hominids controlling Big Cats, I don't know. My guess I think would be as good as yours.

I would go along with what Dean suggested; same sustainable habitats. Like Echidnas, Wallabies and Dingoes all quite different, but sharing the same habitat. So, I do not really see it that strange that Yowies and Big Cats live in the same sorts of areas; Forests, swamps, rocky terrain, caves and mountains. Both appear to thrive in those environments, as long as there is food. And their foods are practically the same. Except that Big Cats don't eat fruit and vegetables as far as I know.

On the other side, quite some time ago I made a connection / correlation between Big Cats, Yowies and to some degree UFO's. Perhaps there is a connection, I don't know, but I do have an open mind on it. But it is also quite possible that because those areas are reasonably remote, they can thrive and be active, without too much human interference. Or, perhaps there is some sort of "Skinwalker Ranch" type of activity happening.

The world is certainly a strange place. And, from my observations it is getting stranger by the years. I don't know if it is the open-ness and the use of the Internet causing this extra available knowledge, or if in fact, the world is really becoming stranger. It beats me, but it is fun exploring through these concepts and sightings.

These were just a few thoughts to linger on.

Big Cats

Dean Harrison wrote:You asked - "Why is it that these animals are together or in the same general area?"

I can't say why they would be walking side by side or why a BF would stand out and protect them. Some say the Yowie and BF are protectors of the bush? The story could be total BS? I don't know...... Sounds very unusual.

My answer was in response to the second part of your question which is why they would be seen in the same general area?

You'll also find Thylacine sightings in the same area. These areas are usually vast, dense and rugged locations where you can survive your entire existence without being found or being subjected to the threat of man. Sometimes they venture out of these areas and are seen. That would be my hypothesis.

DMH

I have heard two stories in my location of Yowies, panthers and Thylacines all in the same area, although it was 20years ago that the Tas tigers were spotted, the other 2 are still being seen.
Its very strange.
These areas I search are quite remote so I guess the animals are protected from man to some extent

I've read of an Australian story where basically, three children were returning home in a rural area, having been dropped off down the road from the school bus. As they neared their home, they saw a black Yowie creature trying to get into their avery at the side of their house. The creature heard them and took off...but as it ran, it seemed to grow shorter! They lost sight of the creature briefly, but as they came round to their backyard, they were confronted by an oversized black 'domestic' cat near where the Yowie had disappeared. This mysterious cat hung around their house for a couple of days before disappearing.

I'll see if I can locate the exact source of that intriguing little story!

I have heard a simiar story but unsure of the location.

The Paranormal side never seems to disappear does it? All over the World we hear the same stories. Perhaps we are all mad?

I have had many encounters that I can't explain rationally and have heard countless more.

I remember Frank Cauchi telling me when he and his girlfriend were forced off the side of a cliff which resulted in several days in Hospital.

According to Frank his dog was jumping in the air trying to bite something about neck height. The 'invisible' (yes I said invisible...cough), thing was walking towards them and they could even see the foot impressions flattening the grass as it continued to approach. The dog was still barking furiously and trying to attack it, and finally they decided they would rather jump than be attacked by whatever this was. You don't jump off cliff's for no good reason (most people anyway). Although Frank, well.... who knows?

Most Paranormal stories regarding Yowies/BF are their ability to vanish into thin air, materialise, shape shift and their psychic abilities.

I think there could be "something" more to them, but to what extent I don't know - again, as I always say, it's ALL hypothesis!

At the AYR we receive all manner of accounts - most are in tune with each other - even dating back to the late 1700's.

I don't sit on either the F&B or Para side of the fence, but I can say that I have had many experiences. Many I can explain, some I can't.

DMH

Dean Harrison wrote:The Paranormal side never seems to disappear does it? All over the World we hear the same stories. Perhaps we are all mad?

I have had many encounters that I can't explain rationally and have heard countless more.

I remember Frank Cauchi telling me when he and his girlfriend were forced off the side of a cliff which resulted in several days in Hospital.

According to Frank his dog was jumping in the air trying to bite something about neck height. The 'invisible' (yes I said invisible...cough), thing was walking towards them and they could even see the foot impressions flattening the grass as it continued to approach. The dog was still barking furiously and trying to attack it, and finally they decided they would rather jump than be attacked by whatever this was. You don't jump off cliff's for no good reason (most people anyway). Although Frank, well.... who knows?

Most Paranormal stories regarding Yowies/BF are their ability to vanish into thin air, materialise, shape shift and their psychic abilities.

I think there could be "something" more to them, but to what extent I don't know - again, as I always say, it's ALL hypothesis!

At the AYR we receive all manner of accounts - most are in tune with each other - even dating back to the late 1700's.

I don't sit on either the F&B or Para side of the fence, but I can say that I have had many experiences. Many I can explain, some I can't.

DMH

I just can't grasp the paranormal thing its sounds like a load of c**p.
IF we see these animals, we collect evidence like footprints , hair, scats and evidence of tree breaks, beds, vocalisations, upturn rocks and logs.
Due you think this could be put down to paranormal,
Ghost (paranormal) don't leave craps, they certainly wouldn't make beds from grass and I can't imagine that they would leave footprints
Go figure?

But not a load of Bs to those that experience this element in their Y experience!

Maybe their Flesh and blood with paranormal aspects to them, who's to say for sure.

more research you do the clearer the picture!

F&B with Paranormal abilities? Perhaps so.

If they were totally Paranormal, have links with Aliens (which is also well written about) and have the ability to shape shift and turn invisible etc..... What is the point? Why would they be here and living deep in the forests? What purpose do they serve (besides scaring the hell out of bush walkers and campers!).

They certainly aren't perfect, because they do make mistakes, which is why they are seen so often. Why do most go to such an extent to hide themselves, when we also receive reports of some that just don't seem to care and make a point of being seen?

Classic example of this is in our media section (witness Audio Reports), where a truck driver drove very slowly passed one on the side of the road. It didn't blink an eye lid at the truck, it was too busy fossicking through the long grass with a stick looking for something and totally ignored the man. Justin Garlick is another classic example, where three of them surrounded his car. In fact there have been quite a few reports of them attacking cars while parked on the sides of roads or in the bush. Also another one sitting on the side of a dirt road while a group of boys walked up to it thinking it was a Human. The bad one at Ormeau that chased Jason, a group of kids and myself. Fatfoot in the Blue Mountains that wanted to play games each night. The list goes on......

Yet most go to all extremes NOT to make themselves known.

I guess it comes down to differing personalities. I have always said their personalities are as vast as Humans. The good, the bad and the ugly.

The biggest question I am asked is "Why no bodies?"

I have never heard of one being killed by a car. Hit by a car - yes that's happened.... but not killed by a car.

I received a report from Evans Head where an elderly couple found a dead one in a creek. They called the Police who in turn called the Campbell Street Fed's and the body was taken away without another word mentioned. A farmer in Taree dug up a massive amount of bones in the late 70's. The biggest Human like bones he had ever seen in his life. He phoned the Police. They in turn called...... who knows........ people in trucks turned up. The man wasn't allowed back on his property for a week. The area was "cleaned" and he never received any answers. He passed away only a few years ago and always spoke about it till the day he died. He said it was like a massive burial site for giants.

Perhaps other people have found them dead? People phone the Police and that's where the story ends. We do know for a FACT that Police and other authorities in certain active areas DO know about the Yowies and take them very seriously. I'm sure they all have a protocol in these situations. It's not like the authorities are keen to make the existence of the Yowie public. That would be ABSOLUTELY devastating for our economy, let alone the public hysteria that the Government would have to deal with. These are the main problems........

But what does the layman do when he finds a body? He/She calls the Police. Its the normal port of call. Then it's dealt with VERY swiftly. I know of people who have been threatened with their families lives if they exposed certain Yowie situations that have happened is the past. Even their OWN people who have been threatened. Wouldn't take much to convince the average Joe to keep quiet.

Otherwise, perhaps they bury their own dead? Perhaps the go far far away to die. Their bodies are picked at by carnivores, the bones are picked apart and separated, then they finally dissolve in the acidic soil over time and or foliage grows over the remains until the bones finally rot away.

Lets face it folks, we couldn't even comprehend just how many animals die each DAY here in Australia. Hundreds of thousands in all shapes and sizes, NOW imagine how may die in a year, now 5 years, think about 10 years - Millions........... Why aren't we stepping over bones everywhere each time we leave the house or go for a walk in the forest? Because........... for exactly the reasons I spelt out. Otherwise we WOULD be walking over carcasses everywhere we went.

So considering the Yowie numbers are not as vast as other animals, considering the fact they are of a higher intellect, considering they do have some form of social group, considering they don't want to be discovered and considering the fact that they normally live a long, long, long way in the forests in remote areas away from walking tracks - I can understand why there wouldn't be many reports of bodies. Its not like he is going to drop dead on the side of the street or dead bang (nice pun Dean), in the centre of a Human walking track close to suburbia now is it? That just wouldn't make sense..........

Or just perhaps they are zapped back onto the Alien space craft driven by Hitler and rex dilboy?


DMH

Ahhhh!!!! The old flesh and blood vs paranormal debate, both have there ups and downs and unfortunately is a touchy subject in the Yowie/Bigfoot community. If its not flesh and blood it gets shunned and ridiculed and if it is purely flesh and blood then it makes countless reports by many seem the same. It would be nice to see the larger community support both sides of the spectrum and a lot do but not enough in my opinion.

That being said it is not always easy to talk about those things without a bit or skepticism.
So most people don’t include it in their reports or talk about it openly, only to the very few. So these things just get lost or forgotten about.

In a lot of cases I’ve read, sometimes family members don’t even believe you when you say you’ve seen a flesh and blood sighting, let alone adding some paranormal aspect to it which cannot be explained. So the paranormal just gets put on the back burner.

Mainstream science is a strange thing and only see’s what it wants to see and dismisses anything that doesn’t adhere to the rules of logic and reason.

Me, I support both sides of the coin, there is just too much evidence to not.

That’s why I enjoy coming to this forum because there are a lot of valid points made for both sides of the debate whether purely Flesh and Blood or Paranormal.

Precisely what we promote here Chewy.... we all enjoy it and encourage it because it makes this forum all the more interesting. It's healthy thinking and most thought provoking.

Views on both sides of the fence AND even fence sitting while voicing an open mind is what we like - it's real research and make for FUN research. Non of this black and white "I know it all", "It's this and it's that" and "that's impossible". This type of approach is anti-productive and quite frankly....... BORING.

You'll find most people on other forums hold back due to fear of ridicule. I never want to see that here.

The best thing about this Forum is the fact you can say what you like, as long as it's Civil, and you won't be put down - (unless we just don't like you..... cough....!).

Most people who come up with the weird side, turn out to be the ones that have done some research.

I have always maintained that the only people who claim they know it all on this subject are either newbies or fools.


DMH

Agreed there Dean this forum has more to offer than most others I have seen on the net.

I have my hypothesis on the Yowie / Bigfoot phenomena and are by all means no expert on the subject.

I have only seen the big fella once not far from Coonabarrabran while going on a holiday with the family to northern NSW. Saw him out the car window walking away from the vehicle. He was only a little guy I would estimate to be around 5 foot. Actually my avatar is as best way to describe the body shape. I remember just putting the whole incident down to a kangaroo, don’t know why really. I think it was because my mind wasn’t able to comprehend what I saw and I forgot about the experience until I stumble upon this site a few years back after discovering a strange footprint while walking though the scrub out near Noojie. Once I read a few reports on the Yowie and had some other valid reports to reassure what I had seen was infact a Yowie my memory came jotting back, it’s strange how the mind works sometimes. From that day on was intrigued to find out more.

This site is about Yowie research. Good research aims to look at the entire spectrum of a subject - good or bad, to obtain a clearer understanding of the subject. In contrast, poor research picks and chooses only the parts that help support a pre-conceived hypothesis.

This site encourages 'good' research by featuring a wide range of reports and allowing posts that query the implications of those reports.

Research in this area therefore involves the collection and analysis of eyewitness accounts and field research, both with an emphasis on attaining physical evidence.

With eyewitness accounts, the quality of the report will depend on the interviewer as much as the interviewee.
As for the field research, the only pre-requisites are an inquiring mind and common sense.

Theoretically, in the long term, as more reports are gathered alongside quality field research, a clearer picture and pattern may begin to emerge.