This is better than any fictional short film

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This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Thumper » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:38 pm



Who needs Netflix when this is on YouTube?

I really like it when non crypto people have an experience like this with out knowing all the common yowie signs and experiences. It is a kind of corroboration in my view.
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by iwanttobelieve » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:18 am

Nice find, Thumper.

Thanks for sharing.
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Bluedog » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:48 am

This blokes unease seemed pretty genuine, you can see something move from right to left at the 13.04 minute mark???
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by aaq » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:33 pm

Was that a short sharp face movement? Am I seeing the same thing?

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by aaq » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Ah no - the bright patch to the right. Cool. I was looking at the bit he had described as a black tree trunk but what I'm now seeing is fairly low. Cool.

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by aaq » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:53 pm

Actually I'm going to reconsider that - it's hard to land on anything other than the sun coming from behind the clouds. The movement is really a blend of light and also happens at the far right.

Could be that there's a figure somewhere, or video compression makes it hard to see?

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by donjoman » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:34 pm

Interesting stick formation at 8:43

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Austral » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:21 am

Saw this a while ago and it is also strange how his car went dead when he went to take off.

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Dion » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:52 am

Saw this a while ago as well, been hanging out for part two for the most part of a month.

Meanwhile you would be surprised at how many gold and metal detecting prospectors have had encounters over the years.
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Austral » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:43 am

There was a follow up video but it was removed before I saw it

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Dion » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:21 am

Austral wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:43 am
There was a follow up video but it was removed before I saw it
I wonder why it was taken down?
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Unread post by Searcher » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:51 pm

I would not be so quick to endorse this video as being real. There are a number of alarm bells for me.

The poster has a video channel called Busted Knuckles that requires content. It also has lots of merchandise to sell. So it needs hits for the monetized YouTube with all the ads. A jazzed up Yowie encounter… now that should do the trick to get more clicks on a gold prospecting site!

He was able to give a very graphic verbal description of the Yowie yet not a single frame did we see. He had the camera with him the whole time and he knows well how to use it.

Mostly the lens was pointed to his face to capture the narrative with occasional pans to the bushland. Perhaps better to show nothing at all than something that is obviously fake. However, he did have a crack some paradolia. Many have tried and failed with that!

However, this young fellow does deliver a really good presentation… he may well aspire to be the next Chris Hemsworth :D His performance will no doubt convince many people. And the video was nicely edited.

As for the car refusing to start, you have to ask yourself… is this just a bit of theatre or a genuine 10,000 to 1 chance coming off? At the end, he promises to come back out again “if this video gets 5000 likes”. Is he just being facetious or does that tell you something?

Just a devil’s advocate opinion and I am happy to be corrected on all my doubts. Remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Unfortunately, I saw zero real evidence in the above YouTube video.

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Bluedog » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:55 pm

Yes Searcher I think your right, nothing to see but some pretty good acting!
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Rusty2 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:10 pm

He lost me at the first add BUT there actually is something happening in the background , looks like a shadow or something .
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by aaq » Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:42 pm

Rusty2 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:10 pm
He lost me at the first add BUT there actually is something happening in the background , looks like a shadow or something .
Right click , "save as"
Movement in the background.mp4
But is it the low grey-brown shadow, which I believe is just sun coming out of from behind clouds, or a really dark part of the taller section just to the left, right against the tree?

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Rusty2 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:20 pm

aaq wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:42 pm
But is it the low grey-brown shadow, which I believe is just sun coming out of from behind clouds
Yep , that's what I'm referring to .

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Unread post by aaq » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:44 pm

Rusty2 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:20 pm
aaq wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:42 pm
But is it the low grey-brown shadow, which I believe is just sun coming out of from behind clouds
Yep , that's what I'm referring to .
It just seems to smooth/blended to me - like the sun coming out behind clouds. There's a similar patch to the far right, a second or two later, that does the same thing.

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Thumper » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:53 pm

aaq wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:42 pm
Rusty2 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:10 pm
He lost me at the first add BUT there actually is something happening in the background , looks like a shadow or something .
Right click , "save as"
Movement in the background.mp4
But is it the low grey-brown shadow, which I believe is just sun coming out of from behind clouds, or a really dark part of the taller section just to the left, right against the tree?
Thanks for putting up the clip. It looks like movement to me...not light or shadows etc.

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Thumper » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:02 pm

Five years ago when I first fell headlong down this rabbit hole I would spend inordinate amounts of time trying to figure out if videos like this are real etc. not I don’t even bother. I realise now, if it is real it won’t prove anything or convince anyone. Conversely if it isn’t real then it won’t disprove anything either. So all the clips like this get left in a category I think of as “MAYBE”.
And the fun part of MAYBE category videos for me is that they can be “entertainment that might actually be real” and that to me is way more entertaining than pure fiction.

So when I see something like this video that is genuinely entertaining and which might be true/real, I really appreciate.

Having said all that, all we’re left with here is some ambiguous pixels moving ambiguously on the screen. Which is pretty much my expectation for everything.

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Bluedog » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:37 am

Yes, alot of what is presented to us on YouTube regarding Yowie or bigfoot should be enjoyed for what it's.
Entertainment not evidence.
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by sensesonfire » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:45 am

People must realize they will never discover the evidence well not the type they're looking for. :?
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by iwanttobelieve » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:45 pm

Dion wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:52 am
Meanwhile you would be surprised at how many gold and metal detecting prospectors have had encounters over the years.
Yes, it does seem to come up regularly.

I'd love to see what his metal detector was doing in the moments before he put it down. Electromagnetic anomaly perhaps?

Anyway, the guy seems genuinely spooked but I'm not sold on the shadow movement, as interesting as it is.

Also, if I thought there was something unusual in the bush I would have ripped off that hoodie and beanie in an instant. All they would do is muffle whatever sounds he was trying to detect.

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Rusty2 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:46 pm

sensesonfire wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:45 am
they will never discover the evidence
Hey Senses , just so you know , there are people out there right now sitting on some incredible footage and photographs , better than anything we've seen .

Most of the people (not all) are members of the public and not everyone wants to share , not everyone wants to solve the puzzle , not everyone wants to expose the creatures and bring attention to themselves and other people want money for their footage .

I've seen some of it and can vouch for it's authenticity but I've been asked not to share it with anyone .
Below is a picture from a trail camera captured by one of our own members , Lil Foot . Unfortunately Lil Foot didn't want to share the face of the creature .
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Yowie bait » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:04 pm

Rusty2 wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:46 pm
sensesonfire wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:45 am
they will never discover the evidence
Hey Senses , just so you know , there are people out there right now sitting on some incredible footage and photographs , better than anything we've seen .

Most of the people (not all) are members of the public and not everyone wants to share , not everyone wants to solve the puzzle , not everyone wants to expose the creatures and bring attention to themselves and other people want money for their footage .

I've seen some of it and can vouch for it's authenticity but I've been asked not to share it with anyone .
Below is a picture from a trail camera captured by one of our own members , Lil Foot . Unfortunately Lil Foot didn't want to share the face of the creature .

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Its a shame that they dont want to share the photographs. I used to think it was pointless to try and prove their existence but now I really hope someone gets some undisputed evidence of a tiger or a yowie.

We need something to save the bushland. Australia is out of control with the development and clearing.

Still this is a research forum. Isnt discussing footage and enlightening others an important part of research?
Even though it always ends up in a (steamer) fight. :lol: (taz)
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Searcher » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:43 am

Iwanna wrote:
Anyway, the guy seems genuinely spooked but I'm not sold on the shadow movement, as interesting as it is.

Also, if I thought there was something unusual in the bush I would have ripped off that hoodie and beanie in an instant. All they would do is muffle whatever sounds he was trying to detect.
I can't be sure of that shadow movement either. There was a noticeable breeze in the area which was moving branches and leaves causing perceived movement. I think that's what it is. Thanks to Rusty for the MPEG4 video and also for posting the Lil Foot photo. The only reason I can think of for covering up the Lil Foot head is that it would be extremely difficult to draw a realistic one using normal photoshop tools! I'm sorry to say this, but when you zoom in to the max for a good look, that photo looks very much like it is shopped.

And Iwanna, great point about removing the hoodie and beanie! Makes no sense at all to leave them on. Just another reason why I think this video can be filed in the 'entertainment only' basket. :lol:

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Rusty2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:35 am

Yowie bait wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:04 pm
Its a shame that they dont want to share the photographs.
I know , it's out of our hands . I think it's only a matter of time though and I doubt it will come from any researcher .
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Still this is a research forum. Isnt discussing footage and enlightening others an important part of research?
Yes , and it's nice that we can discuss this video together without fighting .
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that photo looks very much like it is shopped.
I'll have to disagree with you searcher . Have a look at the "error level analysis"
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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by sensesonfire » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:28 pm

iwanttobelieve wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:45 pm


Anyway, the guy seems genuinely spooked but I'm not sold on the shadow movement, as interesting as it is.



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Not saying that this guy never saw something but in a state of fear or enhanced anticipation pareidolia is also enhanced.
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Unread post by Searcher » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:14 pm

Thanks Rusty. Appreciate your input. I believe that almost anything digital can be manipulated. Error level analysis usually refers to compression levels and in a cut-out, those could be number matched then layered and inserted.

To me, this unfortunately falls in the category of being just another ‘blobsquatch’. There is no detail to see as the shot is so wide. Gaussian blurs are good to make images like this blend in with the background to appear more natural. There a few things like the roundness of its right shoulder that doesn’t look right to me. And the lower body around the ferns looks a bit strange. But hey… that’s just my opinion! I also share your view that any major breakthrough will most likely not come from a researcher.

I have Adobe Photoshop on my main computer and it has been used in literally 1000’s of professional TV productions, so I am familiar with what can be achieved. All I am saying is the image COULD have been modified.

However… Rusty, if you tell me you are 100% convinced this Lil’ Foot photo is genuine then I will hop across to your side of the fence, look at it from your viewpoint and change my tune. Why? Because I know you will have done due diligence with all the necessary background research. :D

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by yowiedan » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:36 pm

There is one simple explanation for this. The sun breaks through the clouds and a shadow moves, that's all nothing more.

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Re: This is better than any fictional short film

Unread post by Rusty2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:01 pm

sensesonfire wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:28 pm
Not saying that this guy never saw something but in a state of fear or enhanced anticipation pareidolia is also enhanced.
Yeah , he might have just scared himself .
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I have Adobe Photoshop on my main computer and it has been used in literally 1000’s of professional TV productions, so I am familiar with what can be achieved.
I guess we're lucky to have someone with your experience to point out the problems with photographic evidence . :D
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However… Rusty, if you tell me you are 100% convinced
Lol , nah . Lil Foot wasn't sketchy or sus and never claimed anything so he or she was like a member of the family , I trusted him/her .

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