YOWIE TRAPS

[AL Pitman]

Hi all
I have considerable engineering and welding skills and have been contemplating the thought of designing and constructing some form of a trap . I must point out that I do not wish to harm our hairy cousins but it would be great to detain a specimen for the purpose of thourough research , after giving it some thought the trap could be developed into a collapsable system and constructed from a lightweight , strong and relatively easy to transport material . I have not given much thought as to the logistics of doing this as yet although I feel it could be achieved .
Some form of bait / attractant would be required , perhaps some type of cooked meats which seems to attract them so readily to campers . If any of you guys have any suggestions Iam keenly interested in your concepts .

[deadpool]

The trap is a wooden box 10 by 10 feet (3 by 3 m) made of 2x12 planks bound together by heavy metal bands and secured to the ground by telephone poles.

Located in the Siskiyou National Forest in the southern part of Jackson County, Oregon. Basic idea was that the bait was attached to a wire that, when pulled, would shut the gate down. If you were going to make this work you'd need to stick around for about 24 hours, so you could check on said "trap".

Go from there, I guess. Personally, i'd prefer camera traps.. but, y'know. Each to their own, right?

[Mike Williams]

Great idea...but..I dont think "they" will just step into it..
Note the 100% failure rate in the US for an example..
If you assume they have some form of intelligence that is..
Yes, man traps worked in Vietnam..on humans..but it was tropical jungle type enviroment..
How about instead..just getting quoll tape or something similar and trying to get hair for dna
The other problem with traps that we have found is..unless you are going to monitor the trap every 24 hrs, then there is a damn good chance you wil catch some form of animal other than your target, that will end up dying up failry miserable death.
A "bowl of water" welded into the corner is not really viable.
Animals bump and smash themselves around inside traps..
We have caught the same dopey wombat everal times in the exact same spot trapping for big cats..
Or even a decent game camera.this footage is superb.
http://www.cougarmagic.com/

Mike

[deadpool]

Thats an even better idea. Double sided tape! All we really need is hair samples, right? Some peanut butter on a tree with double sided tape around said tree at intervals.. that works, yeah?

Sidenote: I've seen NV goggles online for about 80-ish USD, if anyone is interested in the link. They're not pro high tech delta force type NV goggles, but they do the trick apparently.

[Mike Williams]

Thats an even better idea. Double sided tape! All we really need is hair samples, right?

Sure...if you could position the quoll tape in an area which was 'hot" for big guy activity.
Possibly raised enough so that mundane wildife are not touching it..
It would always be easier to get hair/video etc of an intelligent animal than it would be to get it to walk into a trap.dna analysis is getting cheaper and cheaper at the moment.

Some peanut butter on a tree with double sided tape around said tree at intervals.. that works, yeah?

That might work..sure..
The downside is..no method mentioned here has worked..anywhere...ever..for big hairy guys..
but..its damn easier with tape and cameras than a cage..

[AL Pitman]

Hey deadpool excellent picies of the american trap it is very permanent and robust looking but I suppose that we are dealing with a being of great physical strength , I noticed in another video that a screw trap was utilised to obtain hair and blood samples . I would be reluctant to employ that sort of technique not just because of the associated legalities eg: it could be perceived as a man trap but further more I do not wish to make a beast into an instant foe when there is evidence of social contact with hominids in my area , the double sided tape idea might just work , it is certainly less invasive to say the least .

[Shazzoir]

I was thinking that the only way to guarantee a Yowie couldn't break out of a 'trap' set for it would be to lure it into a cave or natural solid rock cavern, and then have a massive door close off the entrance. Nothing inside to harm the captive, walls that are solidly rooted in the earth's bedrock and which cannot be torn up or ripped apart. You'd have to have a cavity in whatever door you had to enable viewing, access for water and food, and most likely, a camera or some kind of means of tranquillising the beastie, though that too would be problematic - no previous experience to go by as to what chemicals might be safe etc.

I think I'd rather get some good footage too. Part of me would hate to see a Yowie captive - it might die, and I'd not want that on my conscience, though it would provide an unequalled and incontrivertable body of evidence, no pun intended.

Shazz

[topender]

i think ( for what its worth ), that our hairy friend has always been greatly underestimated in all areas, so i dont think a man/yowie trap would hold it, they have shown repeatedly their strength prowess, i reckon given enough time they would demolish a trap..........but im in the Camera Trap camp on this...better sneakier cameras

[AL Pitman]

I feel that camera traps certainly would be the most morally correct way of obtaining visual evidence however as in the research , conducted by the UFO brigade the picture form is normaly shot down in flames and generaly disregarded by leading academics even to the point of embarassing and having some dedicated researches hailed as common hoaxers .
I therefore believe that the only example they would sternly consider will have to come in the form of some hard physical evidence .
Previous hair and tissue samples gained in the USA and Canada have been reserved as inconclusive due mostly to the fact that their cross matching of DNA samples did not quite alighn with those extracted from apes and / or human beings , when careful consideration is given that places our target species excactly in that jonre and as such would be an unrecognised sample to the modern scientific processes . these facts really leve us with only one clear option and that is to continue relentlesly untill the desired evidence can be obtained .