Yowie getting wet in S.E. QLD

[scuba]

With all this heavy rain falling around the Brisbane/ Gold Coast area, I can't help but open the debate about the Yowie's change in movements during wet periods.

Yes, there does seem to be a link with the Yowie and rain. This can be traced far back to aboriginal colonisation, but what does rain mean to the big hairy man and why does rain seem to bring out sightings?

your thoughts people???

[AL Pitman]

I suppose it would be logical to think that if yowies normaly bed down during daylight hours , then on wet days it would be an uncoumfortable experience, just as it is when you have a leaky tent you tend to spend more time awake and walking around in the rain in an attempt to sure up your lodgings .

Another reason could be that their natural prey such as kangaroos and Wallabys seem to loose some of their fright / flight processes during rainy times and will readily feed out in the open during such weather as their senses are subdued due to wind and humidity giving them a false sense of security , thus making an easier hunting option .

One other thought it could be that different plants flower and bear fruits during these times also sub terrain creatures would also be forced out of their dens / burrows , making these an available source of food as well , but on a less complex side it could simply be that it is just a nice past time to traverse the bush during light rain , it is cooler and there would be less Human activity allowing them to move around more freely . This is an interesting question though and I wonder if it is the same over in the land of the BigFoot .


MY FINAL DECISION IS MAYBE .................

[forestguy]

I have to say, all this wet stuff is making it a bit hard to get back to check on the temptation site I've got running in the thylo/big cat thread... Esp because I set it up in the bottom of a small creek...

[scuba]

I have to say, all this wet stuff is making it a bit hard to get back to check on the temptation site I've got running in the thylo/big cat thread... Esp because I set it up in the bottom of a small creek...

Temptation for the fishies now...!

On a serious note again, is it possible that heavy rain washes of any scent markings establishing territory? Thus making them more active. Or is the consensus that Yowies like most primates, dont mark territories with scent but with vocalisations and or tree taps etc.?

[forestguy]

Temptation for the fishies now...!

Lol - at least it was up a tree. I'm not sure about territory markers, but as an aside, the location I've set up the temptation is about 2km (as the crow flies) from the location we found this possible print (roughly 15 inches):

LDX Poss Print (side) 011108.JPG

I've just been looking at the 2 sites on the map, and that 2 km line nearly perfectly follows a high voltage powerline...

[scuba]

[/quote]I've just been looking at the 2 sites on the map, and that 2 km line nearly perfectly follows a high voltage powerline...[/quote]

Similar to Dean's first encounter. The cleared land beneath powerlines could act as one big game trail. plus all the grass for the roos too.

Sounds like a promising spot.

[deadpool]

Temptation for the fishies now...!

On a serious note again, is it possible that heavy rain washes of any scent markings establishing territory? Thus making them more active. Or is the consensus that Yowies like most primates, dont mark territories with scent but with vocalisations and or tree taps etc.?

I think they'd be marking with scent.. but also with all the rain/flooding, etc - some markers might get knocked down/washed away.. which means the yowie would be out there marking out their territory again. Which might explain why there is a lot more sightings during/after its been raining for a fair while.

[RingMaster]

The only recorded territorial displays between neighboring bigfoot tribes that I am aware, appeared to use existing roads as boundaries. Thus eliminating the need for evolution to develop a very large bladder from which to draw upon, for marking boundaries. My personal observation is that they have no boundaries, since they move around to avoid logging operations, as well as humans.

When i think of a male bigfot/yowie urinating i don't see them peeing backwoods, i am assuming there "wedding tackle" is the same as a male humans which would have them urinating on things in front of them. Pheromones are not only found in urine, they can even be found in breath, maybe they have strong scent or musk glands which they use to mark territory, this would explain there strong odor.

It seems reasonable to suggest they use roads as boundaries, but roads have only been in the USA and Australia for a few century's, if they use to mark there boundaries with scent before industrial mankind arrived it would be reasonable to suggest that they still do. It would take more than a few century's for evolution to shrink there bladders.

My personnel thoughts are that since most reports mention a strong odor, i believe that scent and smell would play a big part in there life's, since rain wash's scent away it would need to be replaced. But as Al mentioned the bush really comes to life with some rain, relatively shy animals will readily feed in the open without caution, and if its raining at the time you will give off very little scent (the rain wash's your sent straight to the ground not allowing it to travel far) which would be perfect for an animal on the hunt.

[deadpool]

My observation is that bigfoot no more have boundaries than birds to. Because both have adapted equally well to flight.

THEY CAN FLY?!

They're territorial; Magpies & Plovers are bad enough, I don't need a damn 8ft hairy man swooping me.

[RingMaster]

Sorry Doc for not understanding your post about bigfoot walking backwards, to me it wasn't clear.

Myself i am not sold on the idea of bigfoot flying, natural boundaries like rivers sure, but i don't think a wondering bigfoot/yowie would know a river, mountain range excet. is a boundary without some sort of confrontation with the resident bigfoot/yowie or some form of marker, either scent or visual, like broken tree's, stick markers, all of which would be covered in scent by shear contact, or maybe they choose vocal sounds to ward off intruders, like i say its just an assumption on my behalf but to me seems reasonable. I don't think there is a living organism on the earth that doesn't compete for for either space or breading rights, humans do, hell even coral dose, so wy wouldn't this hold true with bigfoot/yowies. And after all there have been reports of aggression towards humans to back up my thoughts of territorial behavior.

And about scent being washed away by rain, Doc to me that's not speculation (probably the same as your feelings on flying bigfoot ).
I have spent over 20 years hunting with sent dog's (from a vehicle and on foot), before rain some dogs will quite often track older sign and piss on tree's which other dogs have marked, after rain they tend to only pick up the fresher scent (the proof being that there more reliable, catching more pigs), light rain isn't probably too bad but decent rain will push the scent to the ground making it harder to pick up, and when you get onto something its usually quite close. During rain dogs will hold there heads as low as possible on the ute and in good dry weather will raise there heads high moving them around to pick up as much scent as possible, and that's where i get my speculation on scent washing away.

[mikka]

All this rain is a good thing for Prints, nothing like a 3hr hike into the middle of a forest and you start to find Barefoot tracks which are twice the size of my own shoe, tonight. Air had a familiar smell as well at the place we came across the some what interesting tracks.

Area does have a lot of Caves and large rock overhangs.

Will be spending more time in this area when I get a chance

[forestguy]

Sweet mate - any pics?

[mikka]

Sweet mate - any pics?

Hey FG, no Pics as our Canons flash has gone the way of the Dodo and will be until it gets sent away to be fixed


As I said some time in the future I will spend some time in the area properly, not just walking a trail with a hydration pack and a torch at night, to get a better idea of anything interesting.

[topender]

On the same note, ive been using a little JVC video camera to film in some isolated caves down/over/up here in the Barkly Tablelands NT, can you buy over the counter add on light set up for them, as the tiny LED light doesnt do "jack sh#* ".?

[deadpool]

On the same note, ive been using a little JVC video camera to film in some isolated caves down/over/up here in the Barkly Tablelands NT, can you buy over the counter add on light set up for them, as the tiny LED light doesnt do "jack sh#* ".?

Whats the exact model of your camera? Might be able to find something online?

[topender]

yeah its a JVC Everio MS120R

[mikka]

On the same note, ive been using a little JVC video camera to film in some isolated caves down/over/up here in the Barkly Tablelands NT, can you buy over the counter add on light set up for them, as the tiny LED light doesnt do "jack sh#* ".?

Old post I know but over the counter ? Every NT person I know has been highly adaptive. few drill holes in sheet metal a bend can mount a mag light, let alone a mag light with IR filter if you want to go that way For a better and cheaper result that factory spec

[suspect]

hunting maybe? its alot! easier to move in on animals in the rain it masks noise and sight an d to an extent smell as the smells of the bush are more intense and the scent particals in the air are taken out by the rain

[Dion]

hunting maybe? its alot! easier to move in on animals in the rain it masks noise and sight an d to an extent smell as the smells of the bush are more intense and the scent particals in the air are taken out by the rain

I agree totally good observation