Tell me about yowie!

[The Hedgehog]

Hey guys. I'm new to this site and this is my first post so hello to you all.

I'm a amateur film maker who after hearing and reading several accounts of the yowie is considering making a doco about it.
I'm hoping to gain any first hand knowledge from all of you about its history and origins. I am based on the gold coast and understand in the past several sightings have been reported in the hinterland area. Can anyone give me specific details of where and when. Do any of you ever head out to try and find the yowie? What are these trips like? Is the yowie a creature to be afraid of? As I said I am new and haven't had time to read every previous posting on the site so forgive me if this has been covered in a previous conversation.

Any information/help/advice regarding the yowie would be welcome. Maybe links to other valuable sites.

Thanks guys

The hedgehog

[Ella]

I defer info about the Yowie to the Australians, Hedge, but welcome to the board.

See the thread entitled "Easter Road Trip", begun by Dean Harrison, for an excellent account of a weekend of field research. A good number of other threads here are also chock full of useful research information, such as Dean's "End of month outing report" further down the list of threads. No time is better than now to get started reading.

For the best general cryptozoology web site in the world, go to cryptozoology.com, which has a forum about hominids. This forum is mostly dedicated to our North American Bigfoot/Sasquatch, who is first cousin to the Yowie, but contains all kinds of valuable information, once the trolls are weeded out! Lots of heated debate about the old Patty film and the existence of BF in general. Don't know of any Yowie links specifically, but Google might have a few....again, welcome!

[The Hedgehog]

Thanks Ella.

I will take a look at all the info you have mentioned. If anything else comes to mind feel free to forward it to me. All info is relevant at this point.

Thanks again

Hedgehog.

[Mike Williams]

Greetings The HedgeHog
Welcome to the forum..!!
Take a deep breath and slow down.. and go through the forum posts and through the main AYR page links..
You cannot go past purchasing this book if you are really serious about the phenomena.
Or..go to a library and see if you can find it.
http://www.yowiefile.com/
Good luck on your mission..

[The Hedgehog]

Hey Mike

Thanks for that. I was aware of the book but wasn't sure where to purchase it. Your link is great help. I am steadily reading the posts and trying to take it all onboard. Thanks to people like you my mission is up and running.

Hedgehog

[Ella]

Keep going, Hedgehog! Someday you may even be the one to get a good photo or film of a Yowie, if you were supremely lucky. Chester Moore in Texas used night vision cameras--never got a Bigfoot picture, but he sure caught some believed-extinct Texas red wolves, cougars and jaguarundis, also thought to be extinct in East Texas. You never know. Keep reporting back on your progress.

[The Hedgehog]

Thanks for the advice Ella. I will keep you posted on my progress.

[topender]

Hey Mr Hedgehog

There is a mountain of information out there dating back to the late 1700's from a diverse range of credible people, if you get around to actually producing a doco, i hope you do it with the seriousness and dignity it deserves, more often than not the mainstream media treat the issue and those involved in the subject with derision.

there are many different angles and sub issues around the subject such as apparent different sub species, habitats, diet, behaviours etc

i wish you well


cheers

[The Hedgehog]

I take my work very seriously and aim to produce a fascinating piece that will draw the attention to the subject that is needed.

[Dion]

Hey Hedgehog,

You will soon find that everyone has there own beliefs on what the yowie is or is not, Flesh and blood vs paranormal for example. For a newbie its not an easy thing to digest there are lots of things to stumble upon and make the mind go into overdrive. I suggest you get the book that Mike suggested "The Yowie" it covers pretty much everything you would need make a documentary with.

[The Hedgehog]

Thank you for your words of wisdom. Are you saying these things just materialize and the likes of the good folk from this site who look for the answers are wasting their time? I joined up to get first hand knowledge from what I would call experts on the matter. I am based in Australia and will be heading out with my camera. I may never ever find anything but from what I read and not having to name names there is something out there and that these people have seen. As for your intelligence agencies, yes they do know stuff we will never be privy too. We can all keep secrets!

Hedgehog

[The Hedgehog]

Thanks Chewy. That was my next move.

Hedgehog

[Jo Blose]

G'day Hedge,

Choice username! Movie actor 'Ron Jeremy' uses "the Hedgehog" as his nickname. Are you a maker of amateur nature flicks? If so, the crypto community is sorely in need of a meercat manor style nature flick featuring the Yowie.

[Dion]

Hey Hedgehog

No problems mate, if you don’t mind me asking what sort of video camera do you use for your films is it a little camcorder or professional thing. I just bought a Canon DSLR 550d thought it would suit my needs video wise but are finding it has its limitations, other than that I have myself a good Digital 18mp camera which I can shoot small cinema like footage for things. I’m thinking of buying a Sony HDR-CX550v camcorder but doing my research it has a blue dot issue which is a type of flare on the lens so I am in two minds about purchasing it, but more than likely will buy down the track as it has superb low light capabilities. The lens flare is only noticeable in the evenings when the sun is low and you have the camera pointed in the direction of the sun. Otherwise it’s a ripper of a camera.

[Mike Williams]

if you don’t mind me asking what sort of video camera do you use for your films is it a little camcorder or professional thing.

My guess..is it aint a Red One..
I would kill for one of those beasties..with all mod attachments of course...

[The Hedgehog]

Re: What Camera do I use.


I know this a not a camera forum, and not to get sidetracked too much from the 'Yowie' topic but.....

Chewy, myself and my film partner let's call him ...' The Rush'n ', both have Canon XHA1S HDV Camcorders. Not Pro cameras, but Prosumer!
The Rush'n also has just purchased the same camera as you mentioned the Canon 550D DSLR. He mainly using it for stills and loves it.
What are the limitations you are having with your 550D? Is it low light filming?

[Dion]

What are the limitations you are having with your 550D? Is it low light filming?

Low light filming is fine with the DSLR the main limitations with it compared to a camcorder are (and I’m talking video wise) is that you can only shoot video for so long, 12 minutes I have heard, but haven’t tested it, which makes it useless for long interviews and such. It can also overheat if used for long periods shutting the camera down completely (not what you want when you need it most); also you have to manually focus everything; it doesn’t have automatic stabilisation or night shot (handy for those night time field excursions) also a DSLR does not fit snuggly in ones hand like a camcorder does. You have to use two hands one to hold it and another to focus with, which can be a pain in the butt.

But all in all I have a decent DSLR which shoots cinematic footage when needed (Just takes some getting used to) and also takes some awesome stills way better than my old Canon S70 7.1mp camera, the pictures are crisp and clear which I’m more happy with.

[Ella]

OMG, Doc, I remember you was banned from cz.com for something or other, it was some few years ago and you went by your right name then. Why, great balls of fire, if anybody banned me from a message board, I'd just tell them to wipe it and kiss my foot!! How come you didn't? That's just downright mean and hateful, to ban somebody for acting ugly! EB got banned too, so at least you're in real good company.

Karl Rose is an artist of amazing talent, and you wouldn't believe he's a skeptic about Bigfoot if all you had to judge by was his magnificent Bigfoot art! Go check out his web site, enigmaticstatic.com, don't just take my word for it. His talent is supreme. He don't work for the NSA, CIA or what-all, he just don't believe that Bigfoot exists--or so he says! How could he be a BF artist of such magnificent talent and not at least consider the possibiity? Impossible!

[Ella]

Aw, but Doc, I'm always telling trolls on cz.com to wipe it and kiss my foot, and they don't ban me! What worse insult is there? I also tell them to take a long walk off a short pier! So if they don't ban me, how bad does a poster have to get???? ROTFL!

Karl's magnificent art lives on and will live long after both Karl and cz.com have gone to that big research center in the sky. He is unsurpassed for computer art, and only Dave "Fishead" Tackett can equal his talent for Bigfoot computer art. Dave's art can be found at www.fisheadtackle.com. Both are supreme visual poets and have my undying respect and admiration!

[The Hedgehog]

Hey guys

Spent most of today doing a little research as you've all advised.

Dean. I've had a look at your youtube channel. It's fascinating stuff. The interview footage with the witnesses is awesome. I like how these people are allowed to tell their version of events.

I've spoke about this where I work and just get heckled. It's good to be in good company with you guys.

I'm about to order the book mentioned in previous messages so I can learn all I can.

DOCSCREAM - You seem a little negative. I read your input but it really had no relevance to what I asked. I don't for one minute believe these things just materialize. We are all entitled to our opinion but I am simply looking for advice and not controversy.

Thanks all

The Hedgehog

[Ella]

Hey Hedge, don't worry about Docscream, he's an American like me and we all have a tendency to rave and to do everything to excess. So Dean has a YouTube channel? I didn't know that, I'm checking that out right now! I knew he was a well known researcher and in fact seems to have traveled extensively in the United States--looking for Bigfoot, I presume?

Your project sounds better with every post, so be sure and keep on keeping us posted!

[Yowie88]

Greetings The HedgeHog
You cannot go past purchasing this book if you are really serious about the phenomena.
Or..go to a library and see if you can find it.
http://www.yowiefile.com/

Thanks for reminding me Mike, I knew I forgot to do something. I sent an email to one of the book stores asking if I can aviod using a credit card and instead pay by direct bank over night tansfer. Do you think they will let me pay by this method.

[Ella]

Well, Doc and I agree on two things: Bigfoot (and presumably the Yowie, their first cousin in attitude) is definitely not your plain, garden variety, F&B cryptid. I know they're psychic, and some years ago, at a place called The Bath House (actually a dry creek bed) near Sulphur, OK, a well known researcher told me that "they can read your mind", which I know they can, and make their presence felt while they hide in the woods. ("Big Brother Bigfoot is watching YOU, LOL!) He told me that EB was more right than he was wrong, and I finally had to accept that. EB put me on his list of those who believe that BF is "paranormal". However, I really don't think there were any UFO aliens in the Patty film, as EB adamantly swore to, but nothing is impossible..... I miss that old boy to this day! Now he's up in that big research center in the sky, bless his heart, and knows all the answers while we're still asking the questions. RIP, honey!

I also believe there is a US government cover-up, as I've posted before--probably for fear of mass panic and in favor of the timber interests, not to mention pork barrel projects like the building of dams that would flood thousands of acres of wildlife habitat, including that of Bigfoot. Chester pointed out in a lecture at one of his conferences in Conroe, TX, that desalinization of water from the Gulf of Mexico should be considered before the building of such dams as on the Sulphur River in East Texas. But the dams provide jobs and draw in more population for the economy of the region....a huge dilemma here in Texas and the USA.

Just keep on with your project, Hedge, and don't worry about the Yowie eating you up. I think the aboriginal folklore that Al posted a link to is like our Boogeyman here in Texas and the southern USA--just tales to keep children from wandering out of the house at night at getting lost, and perhaps eaten by cougars or murdered by human predators. JMO, of course. Keep us posted!

[Jo Blose]

Hedge (can I call you Ron?),

Our Yowie is both F&B and Paranormal. Which comes first - who knows? They tend to act as guardians over certain areas. I don't mean to put you off, but the Yowie is not vegetarian, and some of the Aboriginal tribes in the Wide Bay area, are recorded to eat their dead in times gone by. Also, the Aboriginals would be careful when travelling from place to place, to make sure their women and children were well protected and never straggling behind the group - lest they tend to go missing when travelling through known yowie areas. A researcher in the Blue Mountains of NSW was related similar information when he discovered he had regular visits from a dooligarl.

Just be cautious, Hedge

[Mike Williams]

Hi Yowie88

asking if I can avoid using a credit card and instead pay by direct bank over night transfer. Do you think they will let me pay by this method.


Depends on the store of course..sure....or ..ask them for mailing costs and mail them a postal order..
Steve...ya couldnt resist the Ron gag...

Mike

[Ella]

"...some of the Aboriginal tribes in the Wide Bay area, are reported to eat their dead in times gone by."

Steve, do you mean the aborigines or the Yowies? I'm not clear about your post!

[Jo Blose]

The Aboriginals

[The Hedgehog]

Just got myself the book. "The Yowie - In search of Australia's bigfoot."

Gonna have a good read over the weekend.

Sleep safe guys

The Hedgehog (or Ron?)

[Ella]

Great balls of fire, if it happened, then there must have been some religious significance attached to such a custom for the aboriginal tribes. Some sort of religious ceremony must have been performed. Eating dead people for its own sake--to satisfy hunger--is just too bizarre otherwise. But I know absolutely nothing about the aboriginal peoples in Australia.

I've never heard of any Native Americans doing that at all, except a vague reference (highly dubious) of the Karankawa tribe on the upper Texas coast eating their dead in times of famine. I don't know whether or not Cabeza de Vaca reported this, or some other conquistador. But in any case, Steve, thanx for posting this fascinating bit of information!!!!

[Shazzoir]

And I might add something here, for Ella or those who aren't familiar with some of the cannibalistic habits of humans....

In the Papua New Guinea highlands, researchers found a number of tribal people who had a mysterious illness, and heard that some tribal members had died over time from the same thing. After some investigation, the scientists found that it was part of tribal custom to conduct territorial raids against other tribes (and the payback system was well in place, so it was usually reciprocated). Any members of the other tribe that were wounded and captured, were often eaten. The brain was particularly relished, and was consumed by the head man or head warriors of the tribe. It was these men who were falling ill. After more study, this sickness, called "Kuru" was determined to be a variety of prion-based infection, similar to that of Mad Cow Disease (Creutzfeld Jacobs). When the warriors ate the brains of their enemies, they consumed matter containing the prions, and so, were infected.

In some cultures, especially Africa, eating the body or part thereof, of a person with superior skill or strength was done as the eater was thought to be able to absorb the eaten person's abilities. In lesser ways, wearing the hide or skin of an animal was thought to convey not only respect (obviously it takes a strong man to kill a lion, for example) to others, but in hope of some of the animal's strength being absorbed by the wearer. The Chinese do a roaring trade in things like tiger penis and bull gall bladders partially because of the demand, which, I am sure, has to do with the type of animal it comes from. If this was not the case, I still doubt there would be much of a market for the willies of common, small, non-attractive creatures like rats, hyaenas and so on.

Shazz