UFO Fleet coming from moon???

[Dion]

Question is, is it real?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtyFQRkhW9g

[Ants77]

Hey Dion,

Funny the last two wks I've been doing a little research on Steven Greer. He has 400 odd testimony's from credible folk ( who knows ) who claim to have interacted with ET's. In their line of duty and of all types of ranks in the Air Force, Navy, Army, CIA, Etc. It's a pretty good watch actually. Great points to study and think about.

This is one of the testimony's I found interesting. Quite good, though.......................... If you do watch some of the other testimonials it is a bit chilling and unfortunately fits well, I still haven't worked Greer out, but I gave him a chance.

Why haven't we been back to the Moon ? If we have returned, we're told otherwise, as with many things. Have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6QNzH4x1rY

Cheers

Ants

Team 205

[Stevo]

Interestingly, UFO activity on the moon has been observed for centuries. A very famous astrologer has commented on it way back. Sorry I haven't located the references.

Great link Ants.

There has also been very interesting testimonials in connection with air brushing out the building structures on the moon from the DISCLOSURE PROJECT and on youtube. I don't doubt there is something there. The astronauts certainly saw ET vehicles when they went to the moon. Greer says on his blog (CSETI) Neil Armstrong's family told him he had seen them on the APOLLO 11 mission when he walked on the moon, but was being forced to lie about it, so he wouldn't say anything at all. (He died last August.)

There is also the subject of weapons being disarmed in outer space that may be relevant.

I don't know what to make of the link (Warning! Alert! UfO fleet etc.).

[Stevo]

13 minutes into this link Greer drops a "bomb shell."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veTpBEx7jHs

[Ants77]

Hey Guys,


"Bomb shell" not wrong there. Neil was surrounded by alien craft when he got out of the Luna module ? Love to see that footage. NASA has a lot of really clumsy personnel, so much material goes missing lol.

Cheers

Ants

Team 205 CEO

[Stevo]

Hey Ants,

if you get the chance, the whole tape is very good info with material pertinent to your interest. It really is excellent.

[angryman]

Gday all - first post here so be gentle on me.

That video of specks leaving the moon is bogus. End of story.

I am a professional photographer and graphic designer, and I deal with optics and graphics on a daily basis.

The focus, sharpness and chromatic aberration (the blue fringe) of the moon show that poor quality optics were used to view/film the moon.

There is minimal crater detail, which would be easily visible if the moon was in focus.

The sharpness and detail of the 'objects' is far too crisp. The optics used (unsure of type, but quality is low) would either of blurred the items to the same level as the moon, or added the same chromatic aberration to them. At best each object should have a slight blue fringe to the right, as does the moon. Its a flaw of the camera, so it would be part of everything that was filmed.

This effect of floating specks is easily achieved using a particle array in and 3D program. For example, a particle fountain in 3DS Max would allow small objects to be distributed from a single point, and have them float off randomly.

Another tell tale to its authenticity is the fact that the blue fringe to the right of the moon is static. Chromatic aberration in video footage tends to pulsate, as the camera tries to rectify it many times a second. This tells me that the moon is in fact a photo. Place the photo into 3DS Max, add particle fountain, create AVI. It wouldn't be 5 minutes work.

Add to this, the fact that being the brightest object in the frame is the moon, the camera would of under exposed the frames so as not to blow out the highlights. This would of made anything in the black area virtually invisible (note the lack of stars). As the object leave the moon and head into space, they would not of reflected enough light for the camera to capture them in its under exposed state, and they would of simply disappeared.

I'm no skeptic, I have seen things I cannot explain, and also had an encounter with an unknown bipedal animal, but I can guarantee this is fake.

[Stevo]

Nice analysis Angryman. Welcome to the family.

This sort of thing is just so easy to do I wouldn't even do my head in trying to analyse it. ha ha (I have a background in animation.)

I would like to hear about the bipedal animal. What happened?

(This may be going off topic. May be worth a new thread.)

[Rusty2]

I must be slow , it took me 15 minutes to make . A poor example but angryman is right . This is a sphere wrapped in a map with a particle emitter placed inside the moon . Cinema 4d.............

[Dion]

Hey Angryman

Welcome and thanks for your analysis of the video, like you I do have my doubts, but like to sit on the fence with these things, just threw it out there to see what others think.

Its so easy these days to fake things that it becomes rather hard to distinguish whats real and whats not, especially with UFO related material.

Like Stevo says I would love to hear about any of your other things you may have seen or encountered, just not here please make a new thread in the rightful Topic sections.

Cheers

Rusty

Thanks for that, would have taken me an hour

[Alba]

First post in AYR!!

Yep, this is soooo fake.
There is no atmospheric distortion!

Any lunar or planetary live view will show a shimmering or distortion from the unsteadiness of the atmosphere that we are looking through. The steadiness of the atmosphere is what us astronomers and astrophotographers term 'seeing'. Steady atmosphere = good seeing = nice images or views. & you will never get the moon to track left to right like that through your FOV.

I love a good conspiracy theory & believe there are lunar bases, but they'd be on the dark side of the moon & probably underground.

Alba