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Hi all,
i have just joined today, as I myself am a firm believer in the Yowie in the Australian bush. i come from NZ and have lived in Australia for 13 years now, 10 years up on the Gold Coast in behind Mudgeeraba. My mother in law in her early 70's, gave me a book called "Mysterious Australia by Rex Gilroy" as she has lived up above the Hinze Dam for 15 years now. i read the book and was very interested in all of the readings, but the Yowie really got me going, due an unexplained circumstance at our dwelling, that I believe was a Yowie.
First of all, we own a house just before Bonogin way up on the hill looking west into state forest, the ridge behind our house goes all the way un-obstructed to Springbrook probably just south of Springbrook, the big cliffs and the falls.

We first rented this house 10 years ago and it had just been built, with state forest backing on to it from the west, our house is a pole home 18 ft above ground level, with steep embarkment down into the forest. One night about 1am in the morning we were woken from all our next door neighbours dogs and our own just nutting off. Then 5 minutes later our whole house shook with an almighty bang, I got up out of bed and went onto the deck over looking the forest only to hear huge bipedal foot steps and the crashing of branches down in the bush. I knew straight away it was too big to be a person, very big and heavy sounding?
I couldn't explain this, as if it were a little bush wallaby, which we have up here, it could not shake our pole home like it did. The next morning I went down stairs and tried shaking our house, to try and get the same effect, no way I could at all, not even close.
It wasn't until years later reading the Yowie sightings in the newspaper up around Springbrook and even in Ormeau, which I think was Dean Harrisons camera thing at the time, That I found AYR on the tintin net.
I have been very interested in watching the videos, especially Gary Opit and the bid farmer fella down in Taree, to me they are both fair dinkum. I have showed other people but sure enough they are skeptics.
I discussed this with my next door neighbour, himself being a pretty hard bike kind of a bloke who had only moved up here within 5 years.
About a year ago he told me he was on his verandah having a smoke at about 2am in the morning before he had to go to work, he heard the most gut wrenching sound about 150m in the bush, that made his hair stand up on his back. He had need heard this sound in the Australian bush ever before in his 50 years, he was pretty freaked out.
Well the next night I woke again to dogs going off and got up only to hear huge footsteps and breaking branches about 100m down from our house in the bush, was around about 1am again. This happened a few time in a week to say the least.
The thing that really got me, my wife said she could smell a pungent smell the night before ,only thinking it was our bio cycle.
The next night about 11pm we were both inside our house upstairs and got the biggest whiff of this smell and sure enough it was a full on sulphur smell, not the bio-cycle thats for sure. In the 10 years living here, I have never smelt that at all and being a KIWI going to Rotorua , it was exactly the same smell, SULPHUR.

This how I believe they are there, especially with Gary Opits explanation.

Thanks for reading my little story, I have heard many more from people around the Hinterland that have probably not even been published.

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Great reading welly!
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G’day Wellymon,

Welcome to the forum.

Your description of long term activity is typical of most. Depending upon your intentions, you either need to install solar powered PIR lights around your house, in all directions to keep them away (see Bunnings), or you need to keep them naive by not reacting to their behaviours - do not encourage. The middle ground is not advisable.

If you prefer a hassle free lifestyle, the former is advised. If you want to dabble with the impossible, you can set VOR digital recorders around the perimeter so that you can record sounds that only you will believe and comprehend. Video is a more impossible scenario.

The best advise is to clearly understand that, regardless of what happens, you will not have a problem! Really! It is mostly bluff - if that somehow comforts you?

Sorry. Speaking from experience, I am not sure that this truly helps you either way until you adjust to the circumstances? My ambiguity is similar to Aboriginal advise which says that: “you turn all of your lights on, or all of your light off”. Both have similar consequences in that lights equally attract and repel - an apparent contradiction, where they approach a light but will not enter it. Aborigines in the NT would typically light an “all-nighter” camp fire to keep the dooligahl away (Topender). I hope that this makes sense?

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Neil,
Thanks for the information, you are right they are so elusive and sneaky and have been for thousands of years.
Even your interviewed videos around your house down the Blue Mountains?, I do understand.

I hope one day I will see one, probably scare the s#@t out of me.

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Sorry for this probably being in the wrong forum?
One month ago a financial advisor came to my house to talk business. I could tell he was a keen deer hunter, with all the stickers on his jeep as well as gun racks and spot lights. He couldn't believe where we lived so close to the coast and backing on to state forest, asking if i'd seen any deer or pig around here. I said no but I do think there are Yowies here that have visited our property in the 10 years.
Yowies? he said, Ive got a good mate who lives down Lismore ways and is a police officer.
He kept talking saying a couple of years ago, his mate was called to a distressed truck driver not far out of town. When he and his other officer companion got to the scene about an hours drive, he was absolutely shocked to say the least.
The big burly truck driver was still in his cab absolutely shaking and did not want to come out and investigate the proceedings.
The truck driver was doing a long haul to somewhere with a load of dog food in the back , decided to pull over for a sleep and was woken to his whole truck being shaken violently. After the officers had a walk around the truck, only to find the back door had been ripped off its hinges basically and dog food strewn everywhere, with huge claw marks around the inside 8-9 ft high up on the walls?
Ummmmm......
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wellymon asks these questions on the tread lightly section:

Hey there just read this whole forum,

Ive got a couple of questions for TMFG, have you yourself witnessed or come that close to hearing Yowies in the Australian bush?

Yes, I have some good audio recordings from very close range. But I am referring to Bigfoot.

When you were in this amphitheatre with others who as well felt this orb?

Nobody felt the orb that I am aware of. I was in the amphitheatre. It just showed up on a digital photo.

Were you all smoking DMT? Or taking other forms of similar substances?

You appear to be insulting me. Don't know what DMT is. Everyone was sober as far as I know. Many children were present and enjoying themselves.

I think you have some good points regarding what to do in different circumstances, but as someone said above, its hard to stay in control when adrenalin is over riding your whole mental thoughts and physical being. Some people I believe can deal really well with adrenalin and become focused, but others can not. Trust me I know from experience, I am an adrenalin junkie.

You might try talking to them in order to calm yourself down. It works. Make light hearted jokes. You can set the tone as being friendly and not being adversarial. The more you talk, the less fearful you will likely become. Your fear is generated from within, even though there are hearing external noises. But stay close to your car if you can. Or at least stay in the middle of the road. Humans own the roads. Bigfoot/Yowie seem to think they own everything else, despite not paying property taxes on it.

For sure TMFG, just go and put a camp down somewhere, where theres Yowie sightings and turn some nice music on and call out to them.
I don't think so, they have personally a huge and vast territory, like kilometres. i believe this myself.
So I don't think they are just in behind the bushes all day waiting for yourself to pitch a tent.
Do you know where they sleep during the day? Are they in a hammock in the trees? Under the water in a river? Behind a big log?

I do not go out into the forest an put down a tent someplace, because I have run into a couple of paranormal bipeds that I would not care to be very far from my car, when they are around. So I do not do solo remote camping and then attempt to call them in. I camp next to my car. Since Bigfoot are invisible most of the time, they can float and sleep above the ground while invisible, float and sleep in one of those stick structures, float and sleep in any protected area or change into an orb and sleep in the ground, in my opinion. I have heard of them being witnessed moving out of the ground as a spinning cloud, and then returning. They have many options to avoid being discovered by humans.

Or are they well out of sight in lost caves systems? I.E. sink holes that we as humans never rarely come across in our life time.
Food for thought.

Bigfoot have been witnessed inside of high security underground tunnels, and then didn't just walk past the guard. Caves would be a great place for them to stay, if humans did not have access to those same caves. But they still would need some light and perhaps water.
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themanfromglad wrote:
But stay close to your car if you can. Or at least stay in the middle of the road. Humans own the roads. Bigfoot/Yowie seem to think they own everything else, despite not paying property taxes on it.

Neal, (themanfromglad), please forgive my ignorance but why do Bigfoot consider themselves owners of everything but roads? It can be because of motor vehicles as you yourself has stated on various forums that they can pass through solid objects at will. Or is it something to do with a distrust or aversion of bitumen and tar products in general ?
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edit : I meant to say " It cant be because of motor vehicles..."
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Wow TMFG,

Ok lets get this straight bro, are you from America? If yes, then that is why you call them Big Foots!
Ok sorry I never knew that Big Foot were invisible?
I was not insulting you at all TMFG about DMT, a light hearted gesture.
No Big Foots or Yowie's do not pay tax!, thats pretty funny.

Between you and me, we have both different experiences of this creature, but in Australia the Yowie is not invisible. Well should I say the least? Ummm......
I kind of feel what you are trying to put across, Do we know that they aren't visible?.....
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Rastus wrote:
themanfromglad wrote:
But stay close to your car if you can. Or at least stay in the middle of the road. Humans own the roads. Bigfoot/Yowie seem to think they own everything else, despite not paying property taxes on it.

Neal, (themanfromglad), please forgive my ignorance but why do Bigfoot consider themselves owners of everything but roads? It can be because of motor vehicles as you yourself has stated on various forums that they can pass through solid objects at will. Or is it something to do with a distrust or aversion of bitumen and tar products in general ?
Based on two experiences, the aggressive ones did not advance to be close to me, when I stayed on the road. One advanced but stopped at about 15 meters. The other just paralleled me as I walked down the road and then returned to my vehicle. The little invisible forest people will walk right up to you as a game to see if you can figure out where they are. If you stay on the road, they also don't feel like you are pursuing them, and will be more likely to hang around and make friendly noises.
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wellymon wrote:Wow TMFG,

Ok lets get this straight bro, are you from America? If yes, then that is why you call them Big Foots!
Ok sorry I never knew that Big Foot were invisible?
I was not insulting you at all TMFG about DMT, a light hearted gesture.
No Big Foots or Yowie's do not pay tax!, thats pretty funny.

Between you and me, we have both different experiences of this creature, but in Australia the Yowie is not invisible. Well should I say the least? Ummm......
I kind of feel what you are trying to put across, Do we know that they aren't visible?.....
You have to think which senses you use in order to detect a yowie. I would say that you depend heavily on vision. Which then means that all yowies that you have encountered, were seen by you. In the States, unbeknownst to most Bigfoot researchers, the Bigfoot are very aware of how far the noise that they make can travel and be picked up by the human hearing system. Consequently, the closer they get to humans, the quieter they become so that we cannot detect them with our hearing, when we certainly cannot see them either. If you changed the rules and assembled a very sensitive audio system and placed the microphones out say 30 meters, you would more than likely hear several Yowie carefully laying down footsteps, that you could not see. Thus, making them having the capability of invisibility. It is unlikely that Yowie are different than Bigfoot, other than being generally mean and more brazen. Where the population of humans is low, Bigfoot are more likely to spend more time in man's dimension, providing the climate is suitable. Which appears to be how to describe the Yowie in Australia.
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themanfromglad wrote: Based on two experiences, the aggressive ones did not advance to be close to me, when I stayed on the road. One advanced but stopped at about 15 meters. The other just paralleled me as I walked down the road and then returned to my vehicle. The little invisible forest people will walk right up to you as a game to see if you can figure out where they are. If you stay on the road, they also don't feel like you are pursuing them, and will be more likely to hang around and make friendly noises.


So they are happy for people to stick to the road as long as they dont venture into their territory and will at times actively push people back to the road? Sorta like a " now get out and stay out" type of action? That kinda makes sense.
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sheesh something went wrong with my quote reply above and I cant edit . That first paragraph is Neal talking :)
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I think I would feel a lot safer in my car with the car running, in the middle of the road, for sure. :)
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wellymon wrote:I think I would feel a lot safer in my car with the car running, in the middle of the road, for sure. :)
Since you need all of your senses to determine where invisible forest people are, I would not leave the car running myself. Sometimes, all you hear is a twig break to signfy a 400 kilo Yowie standing nearby, but you cannot see him. In order to be fully atuned to what to listen for, you would most likely need to experience them running at you at night. You might first notice them when they are busting branches to an armswinging rhythm, while making bipedal footstep pounding noises. Then when they get within say 40 meters, they make a dimension change on the fly that allows them to run through thick brush without disturbing the brush. In that dimension, you might only hear a small twig break every 4th footstep, or so. They feel pretty comfortable in this dimension so they may come in close enough to touch you. Which is why you have to be listening real closely, and have picked out a location that has absolutely no background noises like creeks, crickets, birds, wind, dogs or vehicle noise. You want to put yourself on as nearly an equal playing field as you can make. When there is significant background noise, they may be bold enough to walk right up to you and be confident that you don't know that they are coming. I had one do that once and he/she put a hand on my shoulder. Which was a real heart stopper.
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@ TMFG

Yeah I do understand what you are saying above, being so (stealth) quiet and all your ears on in the bush is a great significance of value, especially when stalking prey. I know from deer and pig hunting in NZ when I was a young tot.

I feel what amazes me the most with these hominids, being of such great weight and a lot bigger that us, is that they have been the greatest predators of the Australian bush for thousands of years, being able to catch prey a lot smaller than themselves?
But then look how the Aboriginals hunters can walk around the bush hunting prey, they have this down to a fine art, probably more so a traditional art that is fading!
So yeah TMFG I understand what you are saying about having all your sensors closely connected.
Ummmm.....
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So yeah TMFG I understand what you are saying about having all your sensors closely connected.
Ummmm....
Yeah that's about all I understand too.

On the fly dimension shifts? Invisible forest people?

(eek)
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Yowies don't pay road tax, only every 4th step?
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TMFG how could you not see them if they walked right up to you? And when they touched your shoulder? Im just a little confused.
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Mminter23 wrote:TMFG how could you not see them if they walked right up to you? And when they touched your shoulder? Im just a little confused.

Neal, or TMFG among many other alias, is a proponent of the invisible interdimensional bigfoot.

May I suggest this thread to get an idea of his beliefs. He is the one with the username Historian.

http://67.228.115.45/showthread.php?s=4 ... c5&t=94981
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I'm just looking forward to meet Didgemaster this afternoon and sit down and have a little chat up here in the Hinterland.
Cant wait, sounds like a very interesting bloke with some great experiences.
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Thanks for that :) sounds like fun welly! Would be good to meet someone with common interests but im in syd and i dont think anyone else is lol boo for me!
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Ok im still not convinced that yowies are invisible bigfoots may be but i just dont understand that concept. I have an open mind but that to me sounds a bit funny. But thats just me.....
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Mminter23 wrote:TMFG how could you not see them if they walked right up to you? And when they touched your shoulder? Im just a little confused.
This is what I said "The little invisible forest people will walk right up to you as a game to see if you can figure out where they are."

All I had to do was determine where there were without seeing them. I have two senses that I used, neither of which is sight. First, I can hear their movement, even when I can only hear every 3rd or 4th foot step breaking a tiny twig. Second, when they are in the right mood and in the right nearby dimension, they give off electromagnetic radiation that can be felt on our exposed skin. With experience, you can determine their direction and their distance.

An invisible forest person can have virtually all of the physical presence capabilities, as if they were fully in man's dimension. This means that they can touch you, lay down footprints, throw rocks, howl, and break branches, all while invisible.
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50% of the amateur Bigfoot enthusiasts in my region, are proponents of the invisible Bigfoot theory, that has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by the U.S. Government captivity studies. Rastus, being a bit of a troublemaker and disbeliever, likes to imply that it is a very narrowly held belief. "Narrow" meaning one bloke from the States. There are a half dozen books in print that mention it, that I am aware. For instance, Kewaunee Lapseritas had two books on it. Thom Powell has one book. Henry Franzoni has one book. Those 3 live in Oregon and Washington. Bigfoot in my Backyard, is another book. To live in denial of Bigfoot/Yowie invisibility, is to no longer be approaching any situation from an open minded perspective. 24/7 flesh & blood believers typical blow off all observations that prove invisibility, but instead they just sweep those observations under the rug, never to be thought about again. It is a very convenient way of living in denial. No fuss, no muss. Everything is perfect and all things can be explained as flesh & blood. It is pretty funny to witness.
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Sorry if i came across rude in anyway. Im not saying that your wrong about the invisible bigfoot i just hadnt heard of that theory and i cant get my head around it lol
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Bigfoot are telepathic and can test out how much noise that they can get away with, before we can hear them. By reading our minds, they know what we are thinking and therefore they know the instant that they have made enough noise for us to hear them. Then they back off and make less noise than we can hear. If you are in the forest, and it sounds like you are inside of a sound proof booth, that is what is going on as you are standing there. They have erected a cone of silence around you. Both the big and little forest people will do this. Since you can't hear them, and can't see them either, it makes it real difficult for you to prove to yourself that they have the capability of becoming invisible. In order to prove that capability, you have to hear them at close range, but not see them. Flesh and blood believers, will typical blow off all of those experiences where they hear something but don't see anything, and will not be able to recall them the following day or week. Yet they often refer to themselves as researchers. The Bigfoot will come in within 3 meters, when they are invisible and treading real softly. Which is why it is good to soften them up by playing music to them and leaving food, so they don't take your head off.

I was out in his favorite forest with Thom Powell once doing a little precision call blasting. Using a musical instrument called a wood block or a plastic jam block, I noticed that an invisible Bigfoot was standing 1 meter off to the right side of my rear car bumper. Thom was standing about 3 meters directly behind the car. I was about 1 meter behind the car. But Thom failed to remember noticing the single footstep that the Bigfoot made, when it stepped backward at the sound of the block. He is not trained to notice suttle Bigfoot noises and requires a visual in order to cement something like that in in mind. It takes practice and a lot of solo night forest visits, in order to acquire an appreciation for suttle Bigfoot sounds. Which I personally would not look forward to in Australia. As you can see from this experience, stay next to your vehicle at night. And don't be talking or shuffling your feet about. Every noise is important.
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themanfromglad wrote:50% of the amateur Bigfoot enthusiasts in my region, are proponents of the invisible Bigfoot theory, that has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt by the U.S. Government captivity studies. Rastus, being a bit of a troublemaker and disbeliever, likes to imply that it is a very narrowly held belief. "Narrow" meaning one bloke from the States. There are a half dozen books in print that mention it, that I am aware. For instance, Kewaunee Lapseritas had two books on it. Thom Powell has one book. Henry Franzoni has one book. Those 3 live in Oregon and Washington. Bigfoot in my Backyard, is another book. To live in denial of Bigfoot/Yowie invisibility, is to no longer be approaching any situation from an open minded perspective. 24/7 flesh & blood believers typical blow off all observations that prove invisibility, but instead they just sweep those observations under the rug, never to be thought about again. It is a very convenient way of living in denial. No fuss, no muss. Everything is perfect and all things can be explained as flesh & blood. It is pretty funny to witness.
Righto. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

What is your evidence of invisible bigfoots?

What observations 'prove' invisibility?

How on Earth do you know they are telepathic?
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[/quote]How on Earth do you know they are telepathic?[/quote]


He speaks to them...
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Sorry TMFG but just chill out a little there champ!

Yowies are not invisible for a start, IE if you are so switched on to your senses, as you've said in the last posts? why has such a huge creature like the YOWIE tapped you on the shoulder? UUUmmmm.....

I'm beginning to get the picture here pretty quick, You seem to know everything and explain everything as if you're Yoda?
Hello .

You are not Yoda for a start, you keep saying pretty unrealistic affirmations, that many of the other forum members here on this site do not understand or believe at all?

Sorry mate, but you dragged your beliefs from the other forum into this one, when you were told to chill out by the president? of this site.

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