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Its a shame no ones posting on the Bob Dodson face. I was looking forward to some analysis from the forum away from the actual comments on youtube. I dont see a problem having an opinion on it. Big deal if you turn out to be wrong or whatever. I think its worth a look anyway for someone with the tools to analyse this stuff.

I dont think pareidolia type images are much help. If you saw something yourself and took a photo of it, then you may see it in the photo as a verification of what you saw and even be able to make out some of the finer details. This would be helpful to the person that took the photo but appear as fuzzy zoomed images to everyone else.

Some channels on youtube have nothing but pareidolia and have huge followings. Easy work and more hits for the guy with the channel and many satisfied followers who get to trawl through the images on their computers,finding dogmen,yowies,nephilin etc.

Thats fine with me but id like to see something more solid. I dont need proof but as keen as anyone else to see a decent pic or video. I dont think its that important that the world needs to know these things and if a researcher does get that "money shot" and decides out of good concience not to share it then i cant say that i blame him/her. We probably wouldnt be able to agree on it anyway! :wink:
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TrevorPeters wrote:I can understand the excitement and the absolute certainty that a person can have about something, but sometimes in our excitement we forget about the big picture issues.

What are we trying to do here?
What is good or bad for the species?
What type of information will convince others?
Is there a possibility of harming or turning people away from my passion and if so, what would that look like?

At some level you have to ask yourself "is this of sufficient clarity to be considered incontrovertible?"

Taking a methodical approach to the problem you could jot down the types of evidence in both tangible (I have it here and I can show it to you) and intangible (I saw or heard something, take my word for it) form:
Physical (tangible) - tracks, scats, hair, signs, etc.
Visual & Audio (intangible) - witness/sighting reports
Visual (tangible) - encounters recorded on video of still photography
Audio (tangible) - recorded audio.

Each of those types of evidence is of more or less value to you in promoting your big picture goals.
In other parts of the forum we have had recent conversations about the intangible evidence and the trustworthiness of witness reports.

So to discuss tangible evidence and specifically video and image capture, there need to be some criteria for evaluation if we are to be able to hold our own under legitimate criticism and, scholarly critique. I am ignoring unfounded and unreasoned disbelief here because that is a lost cause.

I like what was posted in another thread about Robert Dodson having a 10 point system for evaluating video captures of faces - he seems to give each facial feature a point and if he sees enough to count to 10 then he will call it evidence. I think that is a start but he doesn't go far enough. There needs to be external verification, if possible rerecording of the scene from the same vantage at the same time of day/year to verify that what you think you see is no longer there.

Anyone is welcome to post whatever links they like but like previous comments suggest, some here have a much higher standard of classifying things as "evidence" and these higher standards are adopted for good reason because they are seen to be beneficial in achieving the "big picture" goals and avoiding negative repercussions that might destroy progress towards those goals.

Some of us will comment and keep it short because, while we don't really agree, we still respect the opinion of others and don't want to be destructive and tear others down. Everyone's opinion is valid to them and all are equal here - or should be.
Its like this other thread I started Robert Dodson Films Clear Sasquatch Head. I think the video is interesting and I like to test these things. A lot of comments plainly disagreed and said it was imagination and that is perfectly fine with me. It keeps people interested, the forum has activity and people get to share opinions - win, win for everyone.

So post away, just realise we are not being mean if we don't agree, we are being true to our own personal standards of investigation, which are different for everyone.
Hi Trevor. Its great to have a system to suss out witness testimony but why so suss on them? Wouldnt some of these researchers be more likely to hoax? I dont see many witnesses clamouring for hits all over youtube or making money off the phenomona.

Theres some excellent new audio reports on AYR. The last thing that crossed my mind was that they may be lying,in fact im appreciative they have shared their story and risked ridicule and alienation to help the ungrateful bigfoot community.

All the respect in the world to the serious researchers out there but without witness testimony you only have half the story. It all works well together to solve these mysteries of the yowie and its behaviour.

Thing is as you say, there's no actual reference point. Not even one photo everyone can agree on to compare!
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Yowie bait wrote: Hi Trevor. Its great to have a system to suss out witness testimony but why so suss on them? Wouldnt some of these researchers be more likely to hoax? I dont see many witnesses clamouring for hits all over youtube or making money off the phenomona.

Theres some excellent new audio reports on AYR. The last thing that crossed my mind was that they may be lying,in fact im appreciative they have shared their story and risked ridicule and alienation to help the ungrateful bigfoot community.

All the respect in the world to the serious researchers out there but without witness testimony you only have half the story. It all works well together to solve these mysteries of the yowie and its behaviour.

Thing is as you say, there's no actual reference point. Not even one photo everyone can agree on to compare!
Which I notice get an occasional mention on Cryptomundo and Sasquatch Chronicles.
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macquariedave wrote:
Yowie bait wrote: Hi Trevor. Its great to have a system to suss out witness testimony but why so suss on them? Wouldnt some of these researchers be more likely to hoax? I dont see many witnesses clamouring for hits all over youtube or making money off the phenomona.

Theres some excellent new audio reports on AYR. The last thing that crossed my mind was that they may be lying,in fact im appreciative they have shared their story and risked ridicule and alienation to help the ungrateful bigfoot community.

All the respect in the world to the serious researchers out there but without witness testimony you only have half the story. It all works well together to solve these mysteries of the yowie and its behaviour.

Thing is as you say, there's no actual reference point. Not even one photo everyone can agree on to compare!
Which I notice get an occasional mention on Cryptomundo and Sasquatch Chronicles.
They're the best reports out there for sure!
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Hi Trevor. Its great to have a system to suss out witness testimony but why so suss on them? Wouldnt some of these researchers be more likely to hoax? I dont see many witnesses clamouring for hits all over youtube or making money off the phenomona.

Theres some excellent new audio reports on AYR. The last thing that crossed my mind was that they may be lying,in fact im appreciative they have shared their story and risked ridicule and alienation to help the ungrateful bigfoot community.

All the respect in the world to the serious researchers out there but without witness testimony you only have half the story. It all works well together to solve these mysteries of the yowie and its behaviour.

Thing is as you say, there's no actual reference point. Not even one photo everyone can agree on to compare!
Actually I was arguing FOR the correct use of witness testimony in the thread I was alluding to - just didn't want to rehash it again. I think Nuggs was the on the prosecution side. Link below.

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Hi Trevor. Its great to have a system to suss out witness testimony but why so suss on them? Wouldnt some of these researchers be more likely to hoax? I dont see many witnesses clamouring for hits all over youtube or making money off the phenomona.

Theres some excellent new audio reports on AYR. The last thing that crossed my mind was that they may be lying,in fact im appreciative they have shared their story and risked ridicule and alienation to help the ungrateful bigfoot community.

All the respect in the world to the serious researchers out there but without witness testimony you only have half the story. It all works well together to solve these mysteries of the yowie and its behaviour.

Thing is as you say, there's no actual reference point. Not even one photo everyone can agree on to compare!
Actually I was arguing FOR the correct use of witness testimony in the thread I was alluding to - just didn't want to rehash it again. I think Nuggs was the on the prosecution side. Link below.

Are UFOs Real?
Well i was getting a bit preachy there. There are some dodgy witnesses out there im sure. Most are sifted out by sites like AYR for whatever reason so we get the reliable ones to analyse.

Its a shame more biologists or anthropologists (animal expert/whatever) dont have run ins with these things and the yowies leave the bushwalkers and teenagers alone for awhile!
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TrevorPeters wrote:
Hi Trevor. Its great to have a system to suss out witness testimony but why so suss on them? Wouldnt some of these researchers be more likely to hoax? I dont see many witnesses clamouring for hits all over youtube or making money off the phenomona.

Theres some excellent new audio reports on AYR. The last thing that crossed my mind was that they may be lying,in fact im appreciative they have shared their story and risked ridicule and alienation to help the ungrateful bigfoot community.

All the respect in the world to the serious researchers out there but without witness testimony you only have half the story. It all works well together to solve these mysteries of the yowie and its behaviour.

Thing is as you say, there's no actual reference point. Not even one photo everyone can agree on to compare!
Actually I was arguing FOR the correct use of witness testimony in the thread I was alluding to - just didn't want to rehash it again. I think Nuggs was the on the prosecution side. Link below.

Are UFOs Real?
Well i was getting a bit preachy there. There are some dodgy witnesses out there im sure. Most are sifted out by sites like AYR for whatever reason so we get the reliable ones to analyse.

Its a shame more biologists or anthropologists (animal expert/whatever) dont have run ins with these things and the yowies leave the bushwalkers and teenagers alone for awhile!
I guess i feel strongly about witness testimony because i am a yowie witness. I may be an unwanted and mostly ignored witness but i had a damn full on encounter that confuses the hell out of me even to this day.

The few times ive talked properly about it on here and got a response, ive found the opinions of researchers very helpful in clearing up some things i was making too much out of. I actually could be a big help with some of the things i obserbed under duress that night.

Ive learnt my lesson about mentioning it though. You may think that it's "safe" to talk about these things with certain people but theyre not so easy to pick and easy to end up the freak in the room if you mention this stuff.

Id love to talk about some serious subjects regarding yowie but hard to articulate such weirdness into writing and usually im ignored on here so im content to post pictures of bigfoot or make bad jokes or whatever. Just happy to be part of the community!
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Hi YB,

Yes I've seen that look people get and you just know you've misjudged their openness to what you are saying.

Personally I think it is a fatal flaw of any inquiry to disregard witness testimony.

Maybe you can get some of the skilled interviewers on here to formally interview you.
By asking the right questions at the right time they could help draw out facts that you find it difficult to coherently or logically put down in print.
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Well i was getting a bit preachy there. There are some dodgy witnesses out there im sure. Most are sifted out by sites like AYR for whatever reason so we get the reliable ones to analyse.

Its a shame more biologists or anthropologists (animal expert/whatever) dont have run ins with these things and the yowies leave the bushwalkers and teenagers alone for awhile![/quote]

I guess i feel strongly about witness testimony because i am a yowie witness. I may be an unwanted and mostly ignored witness but i had a damn full on encounter that confuses the hell out of me even to this day.

The few times ive talked properly about it on here and got a response, ive found the opinions of researchers very helpful in clearing up some things i was making too much out of. I actually could be a big help with some of the things i obserbed under duress that night.

Ive learnt my lesson about mentioning it though. You may think that it's "safe" to talk about these things with certain people but theyre not so easy to pick and easy to end up the freak in the room if you mention this stuff.

Id love to talk about some serious subjects regarding yowie but hard to articulate such weirdness into writing and usually im ignored on here so im content to post pictures of bigfoot or make bad jokes or whatever. Just happy to be part of the community![/quote]







Hi Yb. I’m always interested in your comments on AYR. At least you keep the threads active and ticking along,
whether your comments are wet or dry, you do stimulate further discussion.
As I said when I first posted on AYR, witnesses to Yowie activity are the real deal and their observations should carry
more weight than someone like myself who is only an observer on the sidelines.
Yb. you are the real deal, that’s why I respect what you say about your experience, no matter how surreal.
I look forward to your future posts.

As you said yourself, I have learnt a lot from this web site, the science, the geographic, the philosophical
and the contentious issue of what constitutes evidence for anything. I get the sense that behind the scenes at AYR,
Dean and others may provide some kind of counselling to freaked out witnesses who eventually come across AYR in their
frantic search for an understanding of what they experienced. This is a pretty serious matter.

Someone like Mick Fanning, who I mentioned in other posts, only had his sense of mortality challenged when he was
harassed by that Noah in S.A. whereas a Y witness has their mortality challenged as well as their whole world view.
In other words, in their world there can be a definite pole shift.

I just listened to another great audio report from Howard in Queensland, a mother and her daughter were out riding and
came across what sounds like a family group of Yowies, even a young one.
I’m trying to image what it would be like for that teenager to go to school the next day and sit in science class and try and
be rational about the world. (if she was high school age)

( ditto to TP in previous post )

Yb. I’ve read bits and pieces of your own experience via your posts and found it interesting and even unique in the way you
thought things through regarding your experience.
It would good to read about this formally written up on AYR or even an audio report on that camping trip to Fraser Island.
It’s unfortunate that this has not happened and I know you have alluded to the reasons why in previous posts.



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TrevorPeters wrote:Hi YB,

Yes I've seen that look people get and you just know you've misjudged their openness to what you are saying.

Personally I think it is a fatal flaw of any inquiry to disregard witness testimony.

Maybe you can get some of the skilled interviewers on here to formally interview you.
By asking the right questions at the right time they could help draw out facts that you find it difficult to coherently or logically put down in print.
Hey Trevor i have spoken to an AYR interviewer and yeah he was very good at his job and a pleasure to talk to him about it. I was taken aback a few times by some of the questions and things he said. I thought "how did he know to ask that for?" and "why would he want to know that?" a few times.

Didn't take long to realise he knew much more about the subject
than i did. Anyway he knows where to find me if he wants me. I was keen to ask him about min min lights though! Im just happy they're putting some more audio reports up, and good ones too.

I find the witness to strange phenomona thing very interesting. It's something not often talked about truthfully and usually discussed only to debunk these things.
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Hi Tuckeroo. Always good to hear your thoughts and theories and thanks for the kudos above. You are way too kind! I reckon i'm in the same boat as you and others on this forum.

Just fascinated with these taboo subjects and gathering up as much info as we can which is not readily available in the mainstream. Not blowing smoke but we are lucky to have the AYR forum and resources at our disposal and thankfull for that.

Thankfully too we have the researchers and witnesses as well to help us place it together. Im in awe of some of you well read chaps on the forum. I learn stuff everday! (thumb)

I think the advantage a witness has is that the witness doesnt have to waste time wondering if these things exist or not. Theyve
seen it scream in their face,rip up the bush and run up a gorge or whatever and can move onto the next stage of understanding/ enlightenment or research,repression,clean underpants, fact finding etc

I agree that someones perspective changes after a "paranormal "event. Ive been thinking about it a lot and wonder if our minds are even equipped to handle the realisation of what they are actually seeing.

I know some of these yowie hunters are quite cool about it all and i wonder if it's just me but when you really think about it, its hard enough to deal with the great undiscovered or even marsupial ape theory let alone to believe you have seen or had an altercation with an ancient hominid,human type creature that is living side by side with us and literally in some of our backyards!

I think a book on the subject would be a winner!

That "Howard"sighting is amazing. Maybe a female as it didnt chase her or just didnt percieve the girl for a threat? That girl has some serious guts and what a sight for her to see!

The junjudee sighting is good too. Ive heard that same description of the blueish face. He ruined camera in the rain trying to get a shot of the bugger!

I have been doing a report type thing. I found one i wrote up in january and have been going over that and adding bits and pieces,summaries and things.

Its mainly for my own amusement but maybe if i deem it good enough ill send it into AYR or post link on forum one day. Still not the same as talking about it of course!

My perspective on the subject has changed a lot since that report i wrote in january!

Sorry for being (off topic) so i must say thanks again Bushyankee for the tiki man pic. This guy i know saw one in Thailand once when he was looking at elephants. The thing tried to eat a small puppy right in front of him. Puppy was o.k but guy has never been the same since. Hates elephants now too. :(
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I've been starting to work with 4K video and have noticed that I'm able to zoom quite a bit more (digital post-production zoom) than I've been able to do in 1080p.

The subject in this image is about 350 yards out and shot in 4K with 16x optical zoom after which I've applied nearly 18x digital zoom. Not something I can get away with in 1080p. It is from Honshu Island, Japan. The subject is in the center of the frame, has grayish skin and has his head canted over about 45-degrees left. I've got several hundred frames of him. At this distance and zoom he would not even be discernible in 1080p. I think 4K is going to be helpful to research.

They seem to know all about bigfoot in Japan. Its called a Hibagon and there are various road signs and destination signs with depictions of it. It is thought to be on Hokkaido but I keep finding it on Honshu. This guy looks similar to the Thailand guy I found. I think these guys are all Meganthropus Paleojavanicus but only time will tell.

So I'm posting an image, sharing something. I don't really need to know if you can see it or not. No offense intended towards anyone in particular but if you say something stupid you are going on ignore.
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bushyankee wrote:I've been starting to work with 4K video and have noticed that I'm able to zoom quite a bit more (digital post-production zoom) than I've been able to do in 1080p.
Thats great
bushyankee wrote:The subject in this image is about 350 yards out and shot in 4K with 16x optical zoom after which I've applied nearly 18x digital zoom. Not something I can get away with in 1080p. It is from Honshu Island, Japan. The subject is in the center of the frame, has grayish skin and has his head canted over about 45-degrees left. I've got several hundred frames of him.


Several hundred frames? is this 4k Video?, maybe it would be better putting up the video to YouTube rather than one still photograph. (thumb up)
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Thanks for the tipoff Bushyankee. Just been reading about the Hibagon. Not much in the way of recent reports but a few in the 1970s.
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here ya go... here's a clearer pic of a Hibagon...
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Wolf wrote:here ya go... here's a clearer pic of a Hibagon...
Yeah thats the kids gathering wild mushrooms i think. Interesting hairdo!
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Aren't the Junjudee supposed to have 'big hair'?
Would fit if they have tight curls which keeps growing and becomes an afro... or they're 80's fashion victims
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Wolf wrote:here ya go... here's a clearer pic of a Hibagon...
<s#@t-stir> I don't see anything here - needs to be much closer and much clearer . . . </s#@t-stir>
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Heres a clearer shots for you Dave..
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Wolf wrote:Aren't the Junjudee supposed to have 'big hair'?
Would fit if they have tight curls which keeps growing and becomes an afro... or they're 80's fashion victims
Yeah thats what they say. Curly or frizzy fuzzy hair.

Id say those kids woke that fella up in that pic you posted. Its a no wonder he is grumpy. My hair goes like that in the morning too..

Heres one with what appears to be hair curlers in his hand and another one that looks like it may have borrowed a hair straightener. The plot thickens...
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Dion wrote:Several hundred frames? is this 4k Video?, maybe it would be better putting up the video to YouTube rather than one still photograph. (thumb up)
I'll encode his clip and show it here but he got edited out of my Hibagon video.

He is at such long range that he is difficult to see and he isn't exactly Mr. Expressive Face either. His eyes move around a little and he purses his lips at one point but is pretty underwhelming so far as signs of life.
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So can I assume that there are now sightings in Japan?
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Yowie bait wrote:Heres a clearer shots for you Dave..
That's lot better - thanks . . .
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Here is the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20tz-qg0ILU

He's just one of those finds that looks good for a few frames then not so good. There are a couple of good stills of him in there and I'll include one in my Hibagon video.
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bushyankee wrote:Here is the clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20tz-qg0ILU

He's just one of those finds that looks good for a few frames then not so good..
Hey Bushyankee

For a 4K video that is rather poor footage, so...........there are a few ways I see this.

1. You are either very, very optimistic in what you are seeing.

2. There may be something there but your editing skills need some improvement. You have zoomed in so far on a 4K video that really it could be a pixelated rat, mouse, bird, or a leaf blowing on a tree.

3. Its just pareidolia

4. Or all of the above.

I have more comments to make but in reflection, I shall refrain from making them.
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Oh my. Well this thread will probably be disagreeable for you then because I plan to post imagery here whenever I find it in the Asia/Pacific region and think its relevant.

I'll take a look at your catalogue of imagery and try to improve my skills to reach those standards. Is that located around here somewhere?

Here is an archaic human I found on Sumatra in Gunung Leuser National Park: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7csOdY4Hlc

I'm preparing another Sumatra clip. I found a guy in a landscaping hedge on a path *inside* a village.

Its given me ideas about where they are that I've acted on in Oregon and so I've been working with some local imagery here as well lately.
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Hi Bushyankee I have been reading witness reports from different parts of America about your bigfoot and there are a lot of similarities to our yowies.The vocalisations recorded from both continents sound identical,discriptions are also identical even down to hair colour usually being grey black brown or red but Australia has the added advantage of not having any animal that can be bipedal and six foot tall unlike bears which would be the cause of a lot of false reports from America,on the other hand all the clear footage such as Patterson/Gimlin film come from America.There are no clear pictures of yowies to be found.Both species are omnivorous nocturnal hunters that live in family groups.I think they are very closely related or variations of the same species that have adapted in different parts of the world.
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Lozza62 wrote:Hi Bushyankee I have been reading witness reports from different parts of America about your bigfoot and there are a lot of similarities to our yowies.The vocalisations recorded from both continents sound identical,discriptions are also identical even down to hair colour usually being grey black brown or red but Australia has the added advantage of not having any animal that can be bipedal and six foot tall unlike bears which would be the cause of a lot of false reports from America,on the other hand all the clear footage such as Patterson/Gimlin film come from America.There are no clear pictures of yowies to be found.Both species are omnivorous nocturnal hunters that live in family groups.I think they are very closely related or variations of the same species that have adapted in different parts of the world.

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We've been working in an area that has become our favorite. It is in the Sierra Nevada Mountains in California and we're moving to the area in December near the trail-head.

These images are of a ridge line about 1 mile from a popular hiking trail (~2000 backpacking permits issued per season). We haven't made a video of these subjects because we plan to close the distance somewhat first but we think these images give an indication of what is up there. We've put together a telescopic rig based on some technology the bird-watchers sometimes employ so we have some hope of pulling these guys in better when we haul it up there this spring.
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My apology in advance to anyone offended or otherwise disturbed by our imagery. I'm posting here because Rhonda and I want to share imagery we think shows something. I understand that what I might think is an archaic human is not what others necessarily perceive or perhaps see at all. No worries. Your opinions are respected and will remain so.
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Its the end of the season here so I've been looking over still images we got along the trail to our favorite spot in the High Sierras.

Our stills are 4K (3840 x 2160) so they can be pretty interesting even without the opportunity to see motion or articulation. There are some interesting anomalies in some of the images.

This anomaly/subject is featured in a video I've put up. I'm sharing this photo as a dropbox link because the high resolution results in a file-size that cannot be displayed inline here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ndkmti93hgpyr ... s.tif?dl=0

Caveats:

1) This was taken with a manual focus rig but the focal point was not precisely placed on the subject. The anomaly was found after-the-fact in editing.

2) The magnification this rig provides comes at a price. Some spherical aberration is introduced. Our new rig is Newtonian (a reflector) and so it should be aberration-free next season.

3) The image has been considerably zoomed, lightened and sharpened.

4) We believe the image shows a "compound face" (not one guy) with several heads stacked and another behind and slightly to the side.

5) The adjacent trees are not full sized mature trees implying the subject(s) are not of large stature.
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