Aussie You Tube Channels

[yowiedan]

I have been looking at some Yowie Research videos that are on You Tube. I'm continually seeing videos with people saying that scratch marks from small animals or birds are Yowie footprints. Also whenever there is a black shadow in the bush and it has a shape like a Yowie it's said to be a Yowie. C'mon people your making us look like clowns with people laughing at us. If your filming and see a dark shadow in the bush and notice it, go to that exact area then and there and see what it is. Or go back there to the exact same spot and time of day and see if the dark shadow is still there and investigate. Just because there is a dark shadow in the bush or there is a mark on the ground doesn't mean its Yowie Related. I thought us Aussie's had more brains than this, or are some of us just wanting to be You Tube star Wannabee's. It's getting a bit ludicrous with what keeps popping up on our Yowie You Tube Channels. To be honest if you have to put the video on slow motion for us to see what your talking about, and nothing is there it's getting very old. When i go out, a huge percentage of what i hear or see i discount as other native animals diggings or tracks or calls. I really can't see how everytime you go out, you film a Yowie looking at you in the bush or coming across footprints. People wake up to yourselves your making yourself look really stupid. We should look at Rusty's Videos, he's got 1000's of dollars worth of gear and still hasn't got that money shot, so why do you guys think your getting something everytime you go out. We should all investigate our hairy friend with a bit more time and effort and common sense, to try to work out what is that mark in the ground or what is that tree break from, instead of saying that's from a Yowie. I really wanna know how do you guys come to it's a Yowie Conclusion before you guys even investigate things properly. We should all do this for our future videos on our You Tube Channels, firstly when we find something, actually discuss what it could be and actually study it more closely instead of just sticking your foot next to it while wearing a thong and saying yes that's a yowie print. Then guesstamaking how big it actually was when you got home. Do reconstructive videos, go back and see if what you filmed is still there, if not get someone to help you and measure how big it was with whatever you filmed. Let's make our Videos more constructive and go into details a bit more when we actually find something. Don't jump to it's a Yowie conclusion straight away. Remember our minds see jumbled up images and try to make sense of it, so it makes these images into things it does recognise like a face. It's easy to see faces in pictures we take in the bush because of shadows and light on trees or leaves etc, Pareidolia is rampant in our field of research and its becoming ridiculous that everytime things are seen in the bush its of course a Yowie straight away.

[DaveR]

Well said Dan. Most 'yowie' videos I see posted are just shite.

[Hominidhunter]

Unfortunately mate, I completely agree, it's very disappointing to see you tube channels openly saying they have audio and footage , yet they have nothing, this in itself would discourage others with that " photo " or now "go pro" footage or pic to come forward, let alone the very few stand up researchers that are out there , but I have to admit I'm addicted to a certain Aussie channel with over 40 odd episodes , and a US channel looking for Sasquatch called Rmso, but I'm only human, and doing my own research, half hearted as it is at times , but I persist

[yowiedan]

Unfortunately mate, I completely agree, it's very disappointing to see you tube channels openly saying they have audio and footage , yet they have nothing, this in itself would discourage others with that " photo " or now "go pro" footage or pic to come forward, let alone the very few stand up researchers that are out there , but I have to admit I'm addicted to a certain Aussie channel with over 40 odd episodes , and a US channel looking for Sasquatch called Rmso, but I'm only human, and doing my own research, half hearted as it is at times , but I persist

If one of those channels your watching is J heal your watching fakeery. Your wasting your time.

[yowiedan]

Hominidhunter look up this channel. The rusty222. Then compare it to the other dodgy channel, there is no comparison.

[Yowie bait]

Yes very true Dan. I too have been immersing myself in the yowie and bigfoot youtube research channels and it is getting very silly. Fair enough to present something for discussion but some of these channels are deliberately misleading.

By the way , check out this "catman". I could get 10, 000 hits over night with this one.. "WARNING!! Catman/ Yowie/ Bigfoot- CAUGHT OUT!!!!!"

[yowiedan]

[quote="Yowie bait"]Yes very true Dan. I too have been immersing myself in the yowie and bigfoot youtube research channels and it is getting very silly. Fair enough to present something for discussion but some of these channels are deliberately misleading.

By the way , check out this "catman". I could get 10, 000 hits over night with this one.. "WARNING!! Catman/ Yowie/ Bigfoot- CAUGHT OUT!!!!!"[/quote

I think the Tree in that video is the real star.

[Yowie bait]

Yes very true Dan. I too have been immersing myself in the yowie and bigfoot youtube research channels and it is getting very silly. Fair enough to present something for discussion but some of these channels are deliberately misleading.

By the way , check out this "catman". I could get 10, 000 hits over night with this one.. "WARNING!! Catman/ Yowie/ Bigfoot- CAUGHT OUT!!!!!"[/quote

I think the Tree in that video is the real star.

Yes the tree and the wind. This other one is similar to a few ive seen on youtube like the " white bigfoot on firing range" and the " ipswich yowie" on Pauls global monster channel among others.

I think TheRusty222 is a good example as you mentioned. We can see how much time and effort he goes to. Hes in the perfect areas but even then the hairys remain evasive and stay out of range of his camera rig.

Rusty of course is not the only one trying either.Its nearly impossible to get a clear photo and i often remind myself of this while looking at possible photos of bigfoots and hairymen.

[yowiedan]

Getting Dizzy watching that last Gif, just like watching J&J.

[Yowie bait]

Ja&j can have it bit it will cost em a few cans of boost. I think its a good example of something blowing past a gap.

[Hominidhunter]

It's ok guys, I've been in contact with Russell over the past years, those other guys , j n j are off there chops, but I do encourage others that are looking to post hear, because the majority off us are not half wits, there are friends on this forum and others that have seen it! Like myself, I've seen it, spoke of it , ridiculed by others. But we have friends hear, let's stick together, be strong, and get the answer!!!

[Simon M]

All anyone needs to do is submit stuff for comment - "I got this on video, what does everyone think?".

Speculating about it is fair enough, or asking questions, but I agree that unless some undeniably convincing evidence is obtained, people should be careful about how they describe it.

[Yowie bait]

This fellow has some interesting titles at least. Maybe things are changing for the better after all..

[Simon M]

The trouble - and this is only a matter of opinion - is that there are a huge number of images which are just dark blurry blobs behind some foliage. You stare at these pictures and wind up concluding that it could literally be a photo of anything.

It's impossible to ignore the fact that there's not one single clear picture of this thing (that I've ever seen, anyway).

We all have our ideas as to the reason(s) for this, and some of them may be correct, but the practical, cumulative result of all these blurry images is that people look at them as a whole and think (wrongly, in my view) that the entire topic is questionable; that the reason no clear images exist is because there's nothing to see.

I've been more intrigued by Rusty's audio recordings than by any images I've ever seen. I'm more interested in the AYR audio reports from eyewitnesses than by endless blurry images of a dark shape behind some bushes, etc. There's compelling evidence around, but we seem fixated on photography, which has proven to be less than reliable in the case of the Yowie.

I'm not having a go at anyone - I've never done one minute of field research - but from my perspective the only time people should use that label 'Yowie' in regard to an image is when it's a clear image containing detail that would convince a disinterested observer or sceptic.

[Yowie bait]

The trouble - and this is only a matter of opinion - is that there are a huge number of images which are just dark blurry blobs behind some foliage. You stare at these pictures and wind up concluding that it could literally be a photo of anything.

It's impossible to ignore the fact that there's not one single clear picture of this thing (that I've ever seen, anyway).

We all have our ideas as to the reason(s) for this, and some of them may be correct, but the practical, cumulative result of all these blurry images is that people look at them as a whole and think (wrongly, in my view) that the entire topic is questionable; that the reason no clear images exist is because there's nothing to see.

I've been more intrigued by Rusty's audio recordings than by any images I've ever seen. I'm more interested in the AYR audio reports from eyewitnesses than by endless blurry images of a dark shape behind some bushes, etc. There's compelling evidence around, but we seem fixated on photography, which has proven to be less than reliable in the case of the Yowie.

I'm not having a go at anyone - I've never done one minute of field research - but from my perspective the only time people should use that label 'Yowie' in regard to an image is when it's a clear image containing detail that would convince a disinterested observer or sceptic.

I notice some American researchers are concentrating mostly on Audio now. Sometimes with only audio and also while filming and getting results. Similar to what some Aussie researchers have been doing for years.

Saw a few last night with monkey like chatter and humming which i think Dion and Huxley have both mentioned on the forum.

[Simon M]

That sounds interesting. Combining audio and video seems like it'd be more compelling than video alone.

I suppose I just kind of roll my eyes whenever there's another blurry, indistinct image that crops up as 'evidence'.

[Yowie bait]

That sounds interesting. Combining audio and video seems like it'd be more compelling than video alone.

I suppose I just kind of roll my eyes whenever there's another blurry, indistinct image that crops up as 'evidence'.

This one called " bigfootresearch" on youtube is interesting. This lady walks around with a video at night among other things. Gets rocks thrown at her, wood knocks and weird vocalisations. I only just found it. She seems quite genuine.

[Simon M]

Wow. That's one hell of an interesting YouTube channel.

[Yowie bait]

Wow. That's one hell of an interesting YouTube channel.

Yeah it sure is!

[paulmcleod67]

I have been looking at some Yowie Research videos that are on You Tube. I'm continually seeing videos with people saying that scratch marks from small animals or birds are Yowie footprints. Also whenever there is a black shadow in the bush and it has a shape like a Yowie it's said to be a Yowie. C'mon people your making us look like clowns with people laughing at us. If your filming and see a dark shadow in the bush and notice it, go to that exact area then and there and see what it is. Or go back there to the exact same spot and time of day and see if the dark shadow is still there and investigate. Just because there is a dark shadow in the bush or there is a mark on the ground doesn't mean its Yowie Related. I thought us Aussie's had more brains than this, or are some of us just wanting to be You Tube star Wannabee's. It's getting a bit ludicrous with what keeps popping up on our Yowie You Tube Channels. To be honest if you have to put the video on slow motion for us to see what your talking about, and nothing is there it's getting very old. When i go out, a huge percentage of what i hear or see i discount as other native animals diggings or tracks or calls. I really can't see how everytime you go out, you film a Yowie looking at you in the bush or coming across footprints. People wake up to yourselves your making yourself look really stupid. We should look at Rusty's Videos, he's got 1000's of dollars worth of gear and still hasn't got that money shot, so why do you guys think your getting something everytime you go out. We should all investigate our hairy friend with a bit more time and effort and common sense, to try to work out what is that mark in the ground or what is that tree break from, instead of saying that's from a Yowie. I really wanna know how do you guys come to it's a Yowie Conclusion before you guys even investigate things properly. We should all do this for our future videos on our You Tube Channels, firstly when we find something, actually discuss what it could be and actually study it more closely instead of just sticking your foot next to it while wearing a thong and saying yes that's a yowie print. Then guesstamaking how big it actually was when you got home. Do reconstructive videos, go back and see if what you filmed is still there, if not get someone to help you and measure how big it was with whatever you filmed. Let's make our Videos more constructive and go into details a bit more when we actually find something. Don't jump to it's a Yowie conclusion straight away. Remember our minds see jumbled up images and try to make sense of it, so it makes these images into things it does recognise like a face. It's easy to see faces in pictures we take in the bush because of shadows and light on trees or leaves etc, Pareidolia is rampant in our field of research and its becoming ridiculous that everytime things are seen in the bush its of course a Yowie straight away.

Ok, I get that you are not a fan of my methods or my conclusions, fair enough. However,yowiedan you have made a few hasty conclusions and assumptions yourself. I don't just run off willy nilly into the brush with a camera and my thongs at random places ,then point, film and shout yowie.
The amount of relevant statistical information, compiled on a given area determines it's selection. I committed a year and a half of roughly six hour days
seven days a week (when possible) narrowing down the locations to a list, that to me suggested a reasonable probability of success. Given that with the exception of reported sightings archived on sites like this one, it all must be put together from scratch. I could have studied for and obtained a degree in any number of fields in less time. As for Paradolia, as I've said before, yes of course I understand what it is , I have hours and hours of footage that is full of suggestive matrixing. I also only have basic camera equipment with limited clarity after 200 meters. I even purchased a good tripod on advice to try and limit hand held zoom tremors, which have all but ruined what may have been more definitive pictures, one way or the other.
What you see on film alone as a clear case of visual paradoilia , is a much more complex experience for the in situ witness, surrounded by the real in a way the camera can never fully capture. The evidence of experiencing the location is all but lost to film alone. The filmers perspectives of, depth, color, scent, sound and even how a place can feel, are still bound in the area's of our brain that have developed conscience and mind over instinctual mutualism
as being part of the environment and not just a witness to it. In the army you are trained to look through the vegetation and not at it when paroling in dense area's so as to prevent vertigo and motion sickness headaches, and also to notice what doesn't want to be noticed ,the enemy, the hidden and the hunted. Also although my longer video's are broken down into smaller consumer sized sequences , each claim has more on site evidence than just the alleged yowie itself, alleged footprints, unusual tree breaks, unusual trails pushed through thick spine and nettle riddled brush, weird and huge human like scat loads , weird whoops, and whistles, grunting, growling, stomping that is not so much heard as it is felt through the ground.
Do you know how many reports world wide there are of these creatures standing as if frozen in place when under observation and almost always in physical contact with the nearest tree or large cover ,only to vanish when the observer blinks or changes his eyeliner for the nearest of moments.
In other reports the creature wont move at all until the observers moves on. Why? Because it's patience, stillness and physical adaptations are keyed towards environmental stealth in order to survive and hunt in a place where time does not matter. Humans are time and distance obsessed, how far must we go, how fast and in what time frame must it be achieved in. That is why when we go into the Australian bush we can hear and see birds, insects and reptiles but most times we will not see a single mammal. But they are there, still and just out of sight, watching until you leave.
There are a certain set of circumstances surrounding many reported encounters. More often than not witnesses are followed. More often than not witnesses only noticed the yowie because of the yowies own actions and not because the witness was keen eyed. It's reasonably rare for a group of people to encounter a yowie. Four wheel drive enthusiasts despite ,their time on trails and in deep scrub, only occasionally have (or report) encounters.
Modern hunters equipped with fire arms have far fewer encounters than bow, dog and knife equipped pig hunters. Horseback trail riders tend to have closer encounters than those on foot. More People who are in country or parkland area's for casual exercise (such as jogging or casual strolls) report encounters than back pack equipped distance hikers. As is said "You dont find yowies....yowies find you" Ever consider why that is the case?
I have a footlocker full of my old army gear (I was a grunt for 11 years), boots, greens, fully equiped webbing and pack ect , but I choose to dress absurdly ill prepared for the bush, shorts, thongs, singlet in most cases, no water or food just a camera and a small pocket compass with a folded pocket map, I don't shower for a few days before the trip (drives my wife mental). I get driven to the chosen location by a group of three people, whom are deliberately noisy when we arrive. They stay for a period of time, talking and generally being apparent and then they depart. I remain on my own in the area and move around and through the bush with little care of the noise I make. I urinate and sometimes defecate in the area and I keep my camera at the ready.
I do not agree with tree knocking or howling for response practices. I try and get as much information about an area as I can from indigenous sources where possible including their traditional name for the location.
So between the location research and a developed methodology of appearing to have no methodology (behaving as close to a lost person as possible )
I make myself as vulnerable as possible in an attempt to illicit a response from an opportunist but intelligent ambush predator.
Do I want to be a Youtube sensation?
Myself No. I'm not interested in fame (or fortune for that matter) I try to be as anonymous on camera as I can be, in fact I rarely even talk openly on camera. All of the videos on my GLOBAL MONSTER chanel are not monetized and for the most part carry no advertisement (some contain copyrighted music or snippets of media that allow copyright holders to place adds on the video, a fair trade if the used media makes a point or is used to effect).
The subject matter, yes most defiantly. I would like "yowies" to be a common topic of conversation in this country as bears or big cats are in their respective lands.
Why? I'm sure I won't bore you with my well known motives, suffice to say that I'd like to see them thrive in protected and safe habitats just as much as Id like to help dispel the truly dangerous myth that all of Australia's wild species are harmless hoppers and hiders. I know better but that is anecdotal.
I hope this helps explain at least some of my motivations?
I'm not here to discredit the subject matter, but I will explore and express it in my own way as the situation arises.
And how can I be wrong anyway as there is officially nothing to even be wrong about.Sadly the nature of my negative experience, leaves me with this conundrum.
Because I know they are real and because I know they can be dangerous in the extreme, do I keep these facts to myself so as to avoid controversy
or do I do all that is in my power to act in a way that might prevent even one person from being harmed out of their own instilled ignorance of the potential danger. I know that if I seen you walking unaware towards a king brown snake that decency would compell me to warn you. Same thing, different animal.

Cheers mate

[yowiedan]

That post I did was to rattle a few people into improving their ways of researching and instead of coming up to the same old conclusions. IE: black shadow in the bush Must be a Yowie. Anything shaped like a huge footprint must be from a Yowie etc etc. I have looked back at my old video's from when I first started Yowie researching and thought any scratchings that looked big enough and had a shape like a huge footprint must of been Yowie Related, I was so wrong. Also other mistakes I made back then coming to the conclusion that these findings were all Yowie related was totally wrong. Now I see others coming to these conclusions again and again. I only wish that these findings shown on researchers respective channels are more thoroughly
examined before coming to the first conclusion in their mind its definitely a Yowie. I also have to look at myself and rethink a lot of findings I've found over the years. The ones I thought could be Yowie related might just be other Aussie fauna doing there daily thing to survive, looking for food. 99% of what I find I dismiss it as non Yowie related findings. I'm lucky I've made friends with people that have experience with knowing what track belongs to what animal. Now before I make a judgment I ask these people First. I think we all have to dismiss any findings as being from other animals first before we come to the, Its a Yowie conclusion. Also Paul this post was never posted directly at you its for all of us, including myself as well. I know in the past I've been Guilty of proclaiming things I've found were Yowie related and now i do my best with the help of others to dismiss other animals First, before even thinking maybe this is Yowie related. I just hope others can do the same.

[Dion]

That post I did was to rattle a few people into improving their ways of researching and instead of coming up to the same old conclusions. IE: black shadow in the bush Must be a Yowie. Anything shaped like a huge footprint must be from a Yowie etc etc. I have looked back at my old video's from when I first started Yowie researching and thought any scratchings that looked big enough and had a shape like a huge footprint must of been Yowie Related, I was so wrong. Also other mistakes I made back then coming to the conclusion that these findings were all Yowie related was totally wrong. Now I see others coming to these conclusions again and again. I only wish that these findings shown on researchers respective channels are more thoroughly
examined before coming to the first conclusion in their mind its definitely a Yowie. I also have to look at myself and rethink a lot of findings I've found over the years. The ones I thought could be Yowie related might just be other Aussie fauna doing there daily thing to survive, looking for food. 99% of what I find I dismiss it as non Yowie related findings. I'm lucky I've made friends with people that have experience with knowing what track belongs to what animal. Now before I make a judgment I ask these people First. I think we all have to dismiss any findings as being from other animals first before we come to the, Its a Yowie conclusion. Also Paul this post was never posted directly at you its for all of us, including myself as well. I know in the past I've been Guilty of proclaiming things I've found were Yowie related and now i do my best with the help of others to dismiss other animals First, before even thinking maybe this is Yowie related. I just hope others can do the same.

Well said Yowiedan

I think to many, and those starting out doing field research especially, I am guilty of this like any other researcher, even Dean would admit to being wrong at times, we all come to the conclusions in that anything found such as a bare footprint or especially things such as tree breaks must all be Yowie related. I now take a much broader view as to what could have made something. I remember being with a certain individual in northern NSW where we found a number of Footprints along a creek bed, I now question those finds.

To be honest I think a lot of this acceptance of evidence before really doing your research stems from many first time overseas researchers on YouTube portraying broken trees, rock piles, tee pees, logs marking x marks the spot etc. There are a lot of natural structures which are too often being described as Yowie or Sasquatch dens or evidence blah blah blah.

Lets face it when push comes to shove no one really knows what evidence they should be looking for which makes it a hard task for any researcher.

[yowiedan]

Hey, Dion. I took a drive down the famous Kings Tablelands road yesterday and there were twisted broken trees everywhere. Maybe because of all the high winds we have had in the Sydney/ Blue Mountains these last 2-3 weeks. I'm becoming more aware of the weather conditions causing the majority of the twists and breaks in my research area being the Blue Mountains. But there are exceptions that make you wonder when you see them. That's why when I find these breaks/twists in trees I look for hairs from whatever did this to try and find out what it was. The days of researchers pronouncing "IT'S Yowie Related" before they study the whole story and facts first are getting very old indeed.

[Yowie bait]

I think with the youtube channels there is a lot who really do believe they have something.

Paredoilia is hard to shake when you really think you have something. I had an image i showed some people and they really took the piss out of me. Even my 12 year old cousins had a good laugh before telling me its just a log that looks like a bunny. Still i persisted and even posted it on the forum as an interesting image. Maybe its another cryptid. (Bunjurri bunjadee or bunnyip maybe) but yeah its a stump i guess.

On the other hand , one gif i posted ive shown to all sorts of proffesionals. Photographers, vets, animal experts of varying degree and no one can tell me what it is. It moves and is very weird but no one has commented. One pic i seen the thing and really know what it is but im fine to allow for confirmation bias etc and play it down as i cantprove it even with 30 frames.

My conclusion? Stop posing images im not sure of on the forum and keep it to myself. Same goes for anyone else i reckon. Because even if you are misguided its still misleading to present something and give it a title when you are not sure.

[yowiedan]

Well said Yowie Bait.

[Yowie bait]

Well said Yowie Bait.

Well i could have just gone with the last paragraph but i used myself as an example. Im getting better though..

I know researchers cop a lot of flack but really what a challenge. To prove something exists that doesnt want to be found and so elusive with nothing to go on but sightings and info from other researchers that could be wrong. Good chance of going nuts as well.

Just something like going through leaf litter for hairs is a total pain in the ass. I went through 2 bags and took the rest back and dumped them back in the forest yelling " heres your bloody leaves back!".. Who would have thought spiders could live so long in sealed plastic bags?

Anyone that thinks its a joke should give it a go, even if to see how time consuming it all is. Much easier to film some trees or
a stump and post it on youtube claiming it to be yowie and watch them sweet hits come in...

[yowiedan]

Well said Yowie Bait.

Well i could have just gone with the last paragraph but i used myself as an example. Im getting better though..

I know researchers cop a lot of flack but really what a challenge. To prove something exists that doesnt want to be found and so elusive with nothing to go on but sightings and info from other researchers that could be wrong. Good chance of going nuts as well.

Just something like going through leaf litter for hairs is a total pain in the ass. I went through 2 bags and took the rest back and dumped them back in the forest yelling " heres your bloody leaves back!".. Who would have thought spiders could live so long in sealed plastic bags?

Anyone that thinks its a joke should give it a go, even if to see how time consuming it all is. Much easier to film some trees or
a stump and post it on youtube claiming it to be yowie and watch them sweet hits come in...

Hey, Yowie Bait maybe you should try some BOOST next time you look for hairs. You might be able to go through 10 bags of leaves then. Jason Heal swears by it.

[Yowie bait]

Hmm, might have to give it a try. Im sure its safe if j&j are endorsing it!