Rational or semi-rational explanations for Yowies vanishing?

[hillbilly]

There are a lot of Humans. But there are not a lot of human skulls and bones laying around. Because we deal with the dead.
Perhaps they deal with the dead bodies in some way.

[Dion]

TPTB, or rather TPTTTB

Doesn't really answer my question there are TPTB in any organisation.

https://steemit.com/bigfoot/@sasquatchs ... kull-found

Thanks..... but I think its a bit like "ooooohhhh we found a skull it must be Sasquatch"

We are animals too... of course they are animals, what else could they be?.... aliens?
If an animal as intelligent as the human animal had the 'equipment' (night vision, natural ghillie suit, etc) to remain largely hidden from us, you do not think they could?

I would disagree humans are not animals, (although they sure do act like them on occasions), my disagreement comes from other grounds, science wants us to believe we are animals.

Not just suggesting it... the available evidence strongly supports it. There are plenty of reports indicating this to be so.

There are a few reports. Certainly not enough to suggest "They" are able to be on top of every case when a Hairy being dies to be able to secretly dispose of a body.

[themanfromglad]

The possible location of all those bones is noted in a previous posting on this page. "Another dimension".

Not dismissing that notion. However 4th dimensional four legged Gecko like persons I have a problem with have you seen this entity?

This gecko like person bumped into the back of my left upper arm, when he materialized on the left side of my pillow and made a bee-line towards what he thought was the open top of my sleeping bag, except I was wearing a black shirt top and was plugging up that opening. So he bumped into me, and then vaporized. It felt like a sharp flat nose exactly as a gecko would have.

Also, when out camping a couple of months ago, while I was sleeping on a large air mattress, I heard him materialize on the air mattress that was not occupied by my sleeping bag, then scurry about 4 feet towards the zipped up entrance flap and run smack into the tent flap. Then he vaporized.

I have also heard him inside of a sealed bran flakes cereal box, munching on the bran flakes, during the middle of the day.

If you go out in the boondocks and have a picnic where you spread a cloth on the ground and set food on it, within minutes you may hear some faint clicking during broad daylight. That faint clicking will be over and around your food. That is 4th dimensional people of probably various small types, that likely includes the gecko type people. There are also 4th dimension little people between 8 inches and say 36 inches tall, who may also be loitering around your food. They may sample the 4th dimensional presence of your food. When a 4th dimensional person takes many 4th dimensional bites out of a yellow apple for instance, many small round bruises will appear within a few days, but no holes. Those bruises will only appear on the exposed top side of the apples, with none appearing on the bottom. You naturally can talk to these clicking entities, and invite them to follow you home if you dare.

At home, they may get inside of a lit light bulb and ping on the lit filament. Which obviously requires a presence in another dimension. Another stunt is to suck up electricity from your computer or TV screen while making faint clicks. One trickster used to materialize inside of a forced air heating duct that ran beside the master bedroom at night, and then run up that air duct to the floor vent while making a lot of footstep noise. Then he would vaporize. I put a stop to that by keeping a boat air horn at the ready to blast down the floor vent when he woke me up in the middle of the night. He stopped after a couple of blasts from that horn. In total, he probably did that stunt a dozen times.

However, all of the gecko type person activities where he turns into a physical being that makes footstep noises, is at night in a darkened tent, floor duct on on the roof of a car. 4th dimensional people do not have to be visible in man's dimension, in order to make footstep noises as a physical entity, in my experience.

So you had a problem or some sort, that required a narrow solution in order for it to no longer be a problem? The 4th dimension is a different world that plays by different rules, so you will not likely be able to solve your problem until you stop thinking using 3 dimensional rules.

[themanfromglad]

I believe that this gecko type person also nipped me on the back of my calf, while I was walking and wearing a pair of pants. It was a small sharp pain and around that time, I was wondering whether he was following me to work. This occurred at work. The nip answered my question.

[themanfromglad]

On this video, deceased Bigfoot researcher Mitch Waite, appeared to have captured the brief images of multiple gecko type people, as they made themselves visible to his video camera for an instant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SfZbHQU4s

[Yowie bait]

On this video, deceased Bigfoot researcher Mitch Waite, appeared to have captured the brief images of multiple gecko type people, as they made themselves visible to his video camera for an instant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SfZbHQU4s

I can see some lights on the chicken wire but not a clear Gecko person. That one you mention sounds a bit uncoordinated.

[themanfromglad]

It appears that the outline of the front part of the head, is vaguely visible for an instant. That outline matches a gecko. The length can also be seen for an instant, if you know what you are looking for.

[themanfromglad]

The lower left light burst, on the 2nd or 3rd burst at 0:37 seconds, appears to show eyes and a body.

[Dion]

On this video, deceased Bigfoot researcher Mitch Waite, appeared to have captured the brief images of multiple gecko type people, as they made themselves visible to his video camera for an instant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2SfZbHQU4s

I can see some lights on the chicken wire but not a clear Gecko person. That one you mention sounds a bit uncoordinated.

Have to agree with YB, I see some electrical movement but not a gecko like person, this kind of phenomenon can be tricky to decipher, there are many energy entity like things that can be tricksters and deceivers.

[Yowie bait]

I can see down on left of screen , what manfromglad is seeing as the eyes but i cant make it out as a gecko type person. Very odd though! Surely all reported light phenomona cant be mistaken ball lightning, insects, swamp gas etc.

[themanfromglad]

You have to know what you are looking for, in order to decipher the clues. I was impressed by the eyes lighting up so well.

[Simon M]

There are a lot of Humans. But there are not a lot of human skulls and bones laying around. Because we deal with the dead.
Perhaps they deal with the dead bodies in some way.

I tend to agree. It makes the most sense out of all the competing theories about this. It's also possible that Yowies live in such remote areas, and stealth is so much a part of their nature, that they go off to die in places which are inaccessible to human beings and where they know their remains will be scattered by scavengers and so on.

Even so, I also suspect you're right and they 'deal with the dead' just as we do. Maybe for different reasons (avoiding detection?) or maybe for similar ones. Maybe for both those reasons, but I think they clearly have some form of culture and burial of the dead is one of the oldest human customs which we have fossil records of. It makes sense that a creature with human-like intelligence would bury their dead - or deliberately destroy the remains in some manner - for a whole range of reasons.

[TheBlackStump]

It would be cool if we had some knowlegable indigenous person/s posting in the forum. Perhaps they could shed light on some of the questions that arise here about hairy persons.Then again they may not wish to share knowledge and just keep it within their own people. We just tend to make various assumptions about what might be.

I noticed on the Facebook Indienous Ghost Stories site that someone just recently posted about the existence of AYR Facebook site but they did not mention this Forum or the website.

[sensesonfire]

It would be cool if we had some knowlegable indigenous person/s posting in the forum. Perhaps they could shed light on some of the questions that arise here about hairy persons.Then again they may not wish to share knowledge and just keep it within their own people. We just tend to make various assumptions about what might be.

I noticed on the Facebook Indienous Ghost Stories site that someone just recently posted about the existence of AYR Facebook site but they did not mention this Forum or the website.

So very true TheBlackStump. We just tend to make various assumptions about what might be.

[TheBlackStump]

Anothery theory....I have watched some youtube vids/teachings by a guy called Michael Tellinger re ancient knowledge/use of sound resonance/frequency which I found very interesting. He mentioned that sound resonance/frequency can be used for many things including cloaking/invisibility but he did not go into any detail on this. So I googled it and found out that recently advances have been made in the area of accoustic/sound cloaking. See link below for articles about cloaking.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=soun ... e..69i57.2

So with regard to hairy persons and their reported ability to disappear/appear perhaps somehow they use sound/infrasound to cloak themselves when required. If so then there is nothing paranormal about this and they are F & B. They simply exist at times within a level of physics that is foreign to us at this point.

[TheBlackStump]

The use of sound resonance/frequency in different ways by hairy persons may also account for the feeling of dread etc reported by some persons from time to time.

Also I recall a report here somewhere where some guys were sitting around a campfire and they had a dog tied to a tree or fence post nearby and someone saw a jungadee standing over or near the dog. When they went over to the dog it was dead with no obvious injuries. So maybe the jungadee used a form of sound frequency at close range to kill the dog.

[sensesonfire]

Anothery theory....I have watched some youtube vids/teachings by a guy called Michael Tellinger re ancient knowledge/use of sound resonance/frequency which I found very interesting. He mentioned that sound resonance/frequency can be used for many things including cloaking/invisibility but he did not go into any detail on this. So I googled it and found out that recently advances have been made in the area of accoustic/sound cloaking. See link below for articles about cloaking.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=soun ... e..69i57.2

So with regard to hairy persons and their reported ability to disappear/appear perhaps somehow they use sound/infrasound to cloak themselves when required. If so then there is nothing paranormal about this and they are F & B. They simply exist at times within a level of physics that is foreign to us at this point.

Possibly, but can anyone name another creature on this Earth with the ability to do that? if not then this is a paranormal phenomenon. Either way, once again it is conjecture.

[TheBlackStump]

Exactly it is all conjecture.

Sound frequency/acoustics has also been a proven method of actual levitation of objects.. So there are some reports of gliding /levitation by hairy persons .

Maybe also in some way hairy persons can utilise sound frequency/resonance to give themselves the amazing speed when running as reported by some.

So the use of sound resonance/frequency in various ways by hairy persons could be the answer to all the various traits they are reported to have.

[sensesonfire]

Exactly it is all conjecture.

Sound frequency/acoustics has also been a proven method of actual levitation of objects.. So there are some reports of gliding /levitation by hairy persons .

Maybe also in some way hairy persons can utilise sound frequency/resonance to give themselves the amazing speed when running as reported by some.

So the use of sound resonance/frequency in various ways by hairy persons could be the answer to all the various traits they are reported to have.

Sound frequency/acoustics has also been a proven method of actual levitation of objects.. So there are some reports of gliding /levitation by hairy persons .

Different topic but levitation is a common occurrence in the paranormal/supernatural activity of ghosts and demonic possession as in the movie The Exorcist - based on a true story.
I have no problem associating levitation with Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Yowie but more on the paranormal less so on science.

[TheBlackStump]

Hi sensesonfire

I still tend to dissagree with paranormal.

Link to Youtube vid below which explains where I am coming from re the posssible use of ancient knowledge/abilities/tools etc re the use of sound frequency/resonance eminating from the earth and how possibly hairy persons can or do harness or utilise sound/frequency/resonance in some way for invisibility/levitation/speed/feeling of dread etc , whether it be a voluntary or involuntary action by the hairies as part of a defense mechanism or whatever. This is physics not paranormal IMO. Perhaps humans once had this ability to utilise also but we were dumbed down in some way over time that we have lost that ability. Sound resonance/frequency/magnetism technology could also be used to give the world free energy and other benefits and the powers that be know of this. TESLA was onto this but his works were ignored or strangely went missing. Quite possible the US and various governments or some corporations/ use this technolgy to supply power to various projects they have going atm.

Anyway it is a logical possibility IMO. One really needs to keep an open mind on all this sort of stuff and a reasonable person should never really 100 % rule anything in or out as a fact or a possibility.

A bit of a lengthy vid but well worth watching to the end IMO.


Michael Tellinger - 2017 Sound Resonance Magnetics & Reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZLv2WT84CI

[Wolf]

Hi sensesonfire

I still tend to dissagree with paranormal.

Link to Youtube vid below which explains where I am coming from re the posssible use of ancient knowledge/abilities/tools etc re the use of sound frequency/resonance eminating from the earth and how possibly hairy persons can or do harness or utilise sound/frequency/resonance in some way for invisibility/levitation/speed/feeling of dread etc , whether it be a voluntary or involuntary action by the hairies as part of a defense mechanism or whatever. This is physics not paranormal IMO. Perhaps humans once had this ability to utilise also but we were dumbed down in some way over time that we have lost that ability. Sound resonance/frequency/magnetism technology could also be used to give the world free energy and other benefits and the powers that be know of this. TESLA was onto this but his works were ignored or strangely went missing. Quite possible the US and various governments or some corporations/ use this technolgy to supply power to various projects they have going atm.

Anyway it is a logical possibility IMO. One really needs to keep an open mind on all this sort of stuff and a reasonable person should never really 100 % rule anything in or out as a fact or a possibility.

A bit of a lengthy vid but well worth watching to the end IMO.


Michael Tellinger - 2017 Sound Resonance Magnetics & Reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZLv2WT84CI

Well said. (not sure about Tellinger though)

Remember Jericho? ... the trumpets sounded and the walls fell down? ... IMO nothing to do with 'God', just an understanding of sound and frequencies.

[sensesonfire]

Hi sensesonfire

I still tend to dissagree with paranormal.

Link to Youtube vid below which explains where I am coming from re the posssible use of ancient knowledge/abilities/tools etc re the use of sound frequency/resonance eminating from the earth and how possibly hairy persons can or do harness or utilise sound/frequency/resonance in some way for invisibility/levitation/speed/feeling of dread etc , whether it be a voluntary or involuntary action by the hairies as part of a defense mechanism or whatever. This is physics not paranormal IMO. Perhaps humans once had this ability to utilise also but we were dumbed down in some way over time that we have lost that ability. Sound resonance/frequency/magnetism technology could also be used to give the world free energy and other benefits and the powers that be know of this. TESLA was onto this but his works were ignored or strangely went missing. Quite possible the US and various governments or some corporations/ use this technolgy to supply power to various projects they have going atm.

Anyway it is a logical possibility IMO. One really needs to keep an open mind on all this sort of stuff and a reasonable person should never really 100 % rule anything in or out as a fact or a possibility.

A bit of a lengthy vid but well worth watching to the end IMO.


Michael Tellinger - 2017 Sound Resonance Magnetics & Reality

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZLv2WT84CI

Well said. (not sure about Tellinger though)

Remember Jericho? ... the trumpets sounded and the walls fell down? ... IMO nothing to do with 'God', just an understanding of sound and frequencies.

We all know what scientific affect sound frequencies have, it's the invisibility/ levitation/ speed aspect that requires explanation and at the moment we don't have one. Physics /science definitely but then we start to draw a long bow by accrediting these abilities to these creatures. If this being the case then that alone elevates these cryptids way above the intelligence of mankind and that very fact gives them a capacity that we do not understand IMO a paranormal ability until proven otherwise.

Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Yowies a primordial creature in so many ways i.e food sourcing, habitat and then to imbue them with scientific knowledge way beyond human understanding I just don't buy it.

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

[Pertys80]

Imo they're just like you and I, flesh and blood.
A bigfoot/Yowie's apparent supernatural powers can be attributed to their use of infrasound.
Its known that some big cats and few other animals including whales use infrasound to communicate and even stun their prey..
If been to some pretty loud festivals over the years, and when the bass is pumping you can feel it travelling right through you, blurred vision and all..
Ive heard too many reports of people falling victim to infrasound to discount it. Most common theme is the sudden sense of fear, triggering our flight or fight instinct.
I've heard of people being effected so bad, they have felt sick for days, even passing blood through their urine.
Some people get the sense they're burning up inside, resulting in them removing their clothing.. (Missing 411 anyone?)
The list goes on an on with strange behaviour, hallucinations etc..
I think these beings are well aware of this capability and use it to their advantage, whether it be used for stunning prey or alluding potential threats.
Could this ability combined with high intelligence, and being so attuned to their environment be the reason why some people see them as being supernatural?
Tim 'Coonbo' Baker, a former NASA scientist and fellow Bigfooter has a lot to say about infrasound and the experiments carried out at work..
https://youtu.be/Xr62uwNhw9I
Im a believer of most things fringe, but I see Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Yowie as sentient beings like us..

[Simon M]

I agree that these creatures use sound in ways we don't understand.

A lot of what we may perceive as their 'paranormal' abilities stem from their ability to temporarily alter our perceptions using sound, as well as their detailed expert knowledge of their surroundings.

They know they're faster, stronger and much more comfortable in the wilderness than we are. They're also able to frighten us by following us and staying out of sight - revealing themselves intentionally only as a tactical last resort to scare us away. Any human encounter where these creatures don't feel they're the ones in control of the situation is very brief. Catching them out is rare, and they only reveal their own presence (to any extent) when they choose to. That might simply involve making a sound or throwing a rock, but it's done deliberately and for a reason.

I also agree these things are flesh-and-blood. Their avoidance of human beings is the result of an intelligent mind at work. That's just my take on the subject. People will always have differing opinions, naturally, but that's mine.

[inthedark]

Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Yowies a primordial creature in so many ways i.e food sourcing, habitat and then to imbue them with scientific knowledge way beyond human understanding I just don't buy it.

Could not agree more. If they're teleporting (and perhaps, cruising the galaxy), why are they bending trees and eating roadkill?

[inthedark]

They know they're faster, stronger and much more comfortable in the wilderness than we are. They're also able to frighten us by following us and staying out of sight - revealing themselves intentionally only as a tactical last resort to scare us away. Any human encounter where these creatures don't feel they're the ones in control of the situation is very brief. Catching them out is rare, and they only reveal their own presence (to any extent) when they choose to. That might simply involve making a sound or throwing a rock, but it's done deliberately and for a reason.

I also agree these things are flesh-and-blood. Their avoidance of human beings is the result of an intelligent mind at work. That's just my take on the subject. People will always have differing opinions, naturally, but that's mine.

Good thoughts.

Personally, I think they're simply staying well away from us and our doings. It would be inconceivably dangerous (to them) to venture closer than a few kms, at the very least. The risks are enormous, and no higher mammal takes pointless high risks - apart from humans. And really, it WOULD be pointless to come onto our turf .. there is nothing to be gained at all. Starvation might drive them closer, as it does with Roos and other forest dwellers from time to time, but even these are rare events when you're talking about a large wilderness area. Starving mammals can always just move a few valleys over in their search for food, when their habitat covers many hundreds or thousands of square kms. They don't need to raid our bins for apple cores. Of course, this presupposes that they only exist in wilderness areas.

[inthedark]

Some people get the sense they're burning up inside, resulting in them removing their clothing.. (Missing 411 anyone?)

With respect, that's caused by Hypothermia. The body's thermostat is compromised, and the freezing person can (and often does) feel very hot. This leads to 'paradoxical undressing'. The removal of shoes (the shoes go first - which seems an oddity, but makes sense when you remember that's how we always do it), and both shoes and clothes are sometimes neatly placed/folded - thought not always in the same location, as the person tends to shed stuff as they wander.

Those 'Missing 411' cases are almost all Hypothermia deaths. There would be a small number of predations (bear etc), and some murders, but they're mainly just very sad but very ordinary cases of ill-prepared people, or poor supervision of children. Throw in the changeable weather conditions of many wilderness areas in America, and there you have it.

[Simon M]

I tend to agree that a very big part of their overall survival strategy involves keeping well away from human beings. I guess it's a sign of intelligence, but I don't think they're showing any kind of super-normal level of intellect in that regard - they're just smart enough to know we're dangerous to them and that we're best avoided, the same as most wild creatures are.

[AL Pitman]

There was the Tabulam report also Northern NSW where a juvenile body was seen to be floating in the river and after being reported to authorities was removed by officials with no further correspondence being given to the locals or media ??

[Simon M]

As I've stated before, I have no trouble believing that people in authority take pains to 'keep a lid' on their existence, mainly to avoid public panic and the possible mayhem that could result (large numbers of people going out, armed, hunting these things and potentially causing even more trouble for the authorities and emergency services to deal with).

It's more like an extreme version of risk management than a genuine conspiracy, in my view. Those in 'high places' are aware of Yowies (or whatever you want to call them), but they're also aware that it's not something they can do a whole lot about and that the entire issue is best swept under the carpet for their own convenience. It's something they don't know how to deal with (and don't want to budget for) so they pretend it's not there. Yowies are a hassle to them, they have no regard for the danger to the public or the scientific value they hold. It's just an inconvenience to a budget-minded bureaucrat. That's my take on it.