How did they get here?

[Beastman]

There is scant evidence that Australia has ever been linked to Asia by a land bridge. The lack of native placental mammals - besides rodents that probably drifted here on debris - seems to discount the possibility that yowies walked here.
Although, of couse, nothing is impossible.

What about the possibility that early humans brought them here? Maybe they were an important "totem" animal to them and had a place in their spirituality?

One of the biggest problems I have with the whole yowie thing is how the hell did they get here...

For the record I'd describe myself as an open minded skeptic who wants yowies to be real. I hope they are! Right now I'm 50/50 on the whole question.

[ben_gullick]

what if yowies have a para-normal side to them? You have to consider all possiblities.

[shane323]

i have to disagree about the lack of land bridge otherwise how do you explain the aboriginals. they certainly didn't have large boats to sail here and in fact they didn't even have the wheel.

[Beastman]

They wouldn't have needed large boats to get here.
Just canoes would have been enough - and they certainly had those.

[Beastman]

And re. the paranormal thing, I personally can't go there. It's flesh and blood or nothing for me.
The paranormal thing seems like a cop out to "paper over" some of the more inexplicable elements of this mystery.

[dawn]

Wasn't the sea level a lot shallower 10,000 years ago? I would suggest that perhaps they island hopped. Don't forget they are also excellant swimmers. Maybe the pressure of a population growth throughout Indonesia, caused them to retreat, Australia being the last stop!

[folcrom]

Floating folliage rafts.

During tropical storms and typhoons, its not unusual for sections of rainforest abutting the sea to break away and float with the currents from one Island to the next.

Some of these floating folliage "rafts" can range in size from a few trees to an acre or more in size.

Indonesia is an archipeligo of more than 11,000 Islands, include the Philipines and there's another 7,000 Islands. Deep channels often separate many of these Islands. Yet plenty of land animals can be found on all of them and not all of them were introduced by man.

Folcrom.

[shane323]

sorry to still disagree Beastman but covering vast distances in a bark canoe doesn't sound very feasible however the raft idea has more merit but i still think they walked

[Jo Blose]

On the surface the Yowie/Sasquatch may appear to be a reclusive, primitive bipedal hominid, no different to perhaps a gorilla in mannerisms. But, scientists are now of the opinion modern humans (homo sapiens) co-existed with homo Neanderthalensis within the last 1 million years. This suggests, that which became modern mankind was only one line of a number of lines of hominid/humanoids, pumped out of the evolutionary pool concurrently. Who's to say the Yowie isn't simply another of these lines? - if not an older line on a different evolutionary ladder to us and our ancestors?

The wollemi pine has been here since prehistoric times (or so I've been told, so correct me if I'm wrong!). Who's to say the ancestors of the modern day Yowie weren't picking food from between their teeth with wollemi pine needles 2 million years before our ancestors even came on the scene? Is it possible the Yowie is on a slower (and different) evolutionary path? I would suggest the Yowie didn't need to get here, as they were happily already here.

Here's something else to ponder: If the Yowie were not flesh and blood but still able to do all the things they are reported to do, would that make them any less real? If they were not 'real', I strongly suggest this particular site would never have existed.

[folcrom]

Folliage rafts aren't an "idea".
They're a simple fact of nature.
Where ever you get a combination of
Rain forrests.
Severe Flooding,
Cyclones,Hurricanes and/or Typhoons,
you can find folliage rafts.

That includes places like
The Amazon Basin
The Caribean and of course
the Archipelegos of South East Asia.

These kinds of Rafts used to be far more
common in the past. Humans being so
detrimental to rain forrests, have tended
to reduce the modern day occurances.
They can be quite large, ie acres in size
and have been known to carry large animals
like water buffulo and even elephants.

They also tend to fall apart the longer they drift,
but have been known to drift surprising distances.

Folcrom.

[ben_gullick]

As far as para-normal goes why is the yowie flesh and blood or nothing? That sounds like a narrow closed minded approach. Obviously if you approach it with a closed or narrowed mind then you won't get very far because as far as yowie experiences goes there is alot of things that cant be flesh and blood. With a narrow view of flesh and blood how would you ever be able to fully understand this phenomena if they were indeed part para?

[Quicksilver71]

Hi I believe we should have an open mind re Yowies. I am still torn between the F&B and Paranormal arguement too.

There is more to this realm than we can ever imagine.

Two things which have made me think more towards the Paranormal was the "book" of the Mothman prophecies, John Keel's theory on Ultraterrestrials is fascinating. And the Wee Jasper account.

Perhaps the Yowie is able to slip in and out of our time and/or reality under the right circumstances.

I never like to think inside the square.

Cheerz

Murray

[Buck]

http://geology.about.com/cs/evolution/a/aa072703a.htm

A land bridge is a connection between landmasses that comes and goes. The land bridge we all think of today connects Alaska with Siberia when the sea level is low, as it did during the recent ice ages. When polar ice caps take water from the ocean, much of the Bering Sea, including the Bering Strait, becomes dry land. Geologists have named the land Beringia.

With only speculation to say that distances were too far for land bridges to commit a large hairy homminid to a walkathon have a look at this illustration.

http://www.scotese.com/lastice.htm

Then have a read of this interesting article.

http://geology.about.com/gi/dynamic/off ... MP940B.htm

Just think if the ice age is a little colder than they think, it's possible that there may have been shorter distances to cross by sea... if any.


Whatever way you cut it, the greater population at large wont even entertain how they got here unless we show them one they can believe in.

Cheers Buck

[Wazza]

I think it would be difficult to geta yowie to stay ona raft for any amount of time.

I can'tsee

[Beastman]

There is no doubt that Australia was once connected to New Guinea and probably some of the eastern Indonesian islands.
Ever heard of the Wallace Line? Indonesia is divided between "asian" fauna (monkeys, apes, tigers, deer, buffalo, elephants, rhinos etc etc) to the west of the line and "australian" fauna to the east (possums, cuscuss, cassowaries, wallabies, and once, thylacines).
There is and always has been a deep trench of water between the two sides of the line that stopped migration of animals. There are no monkeys, deer, tigers etc occurring naturally to the east of the Wallace Line - and some of those animals are great swimmers.

[nathe]

yowies and bigfoot yetis i beleave r undergrown dwellers.ive read alot about the under ground caverns in the blue mountains and the location of most the caverns r still unknown,Indigenous people of the blue mountains have said that once these caverns could lead to canberra from orange and further.rex gilroy mentions it alot in his novels.also too the fact or theory that yowies r Subterranean might evan explain the foul stench people always smell when encountering one.moist caverns = bad smellying biped...it also may explain why they r so elusive ?