A visual digest of my research 2012- 2017

[paulmcleod67]

This was just plonked onto my fb page


Harry Jenkins (who?)
Anyone who puts a claimed image of a yowie out in the public domain but refuses multiple requests to release the original, unaltered image sequence files, the camera specifications and the original EXIF or metadata is playing silly games and deserves to be treated as a hoaxer.

A word of warning - it is extremely unwise to treat others with a long interest and experience in this field as idiots. You will be handed your backside in a sling when patience with your antics expires.

We do not have to tolerate dumb behaviour which has an adverse effect on a field we feel deserves careful consideration. Nor do we have to tolerate having our field of endeavour hijacked for some petty personal gain or a brief attempt at fame and fortune.

The patience fuse is very short but the result of ignoring this warning lasts a very, very long time. Remember Steve Piper and the others who have tried these shenanigans before? You have one last chance to release your best undoctored evidence or we will presume that you are a fraud and a hoaxer and deal with it accordingly. If your images are, as they indeed appear to be, nothing more than digitally manipulated creations then it's recommended that you take them all down and apologise to the yowie research community.


Really?
Does anybody know this person? I can't find anything of his research...anywhere.
His Fb page lists David Reid as a friend (hi David).
He has never contacted me in any other format (phn, email, message, txt, carrier pigeon) in order to communicate his concerns
No he would rather air the lot on my fb page for all to see, including all the people in my life that mean the world to me...very stylish of you mate. Veiled threats don't bother me in fact what he said doesn't bother me, the cowardly way he did it, however does bother me.

Cheers


I'm leaving his Fb post (rant) on my page simply because I couldn't be bothered deleting it.

[paulmcleod67]

And then good old Gary Opit puts the smile back on my face with these....what a gentleman that bloke is.

Paul McLeod Gary Opit's comments on my research..."Hello Paul,

Yes best photo so far. I am giving a PowerPoint slide presentation at the third annual ACRO conference in Newcastle so would like to include these two photos if that is fine by you. What is the link to the Darling Downs WA Yowie photo that you included as a comparison? I think that you are close to getting really good photos at your research site.

Regards,

Gary.
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Paul McLeod
Paul McLeod Hi Paul,

They are excellent photos, looks very much like a Yowie & you have written a good research outline. I am not actually a doctor. Remember, there should be Yowie DNA all over the ground & in any small pools of water where you have observed them. It would be a good idea to purchase a number of those sterile plastic containers that doctors hand out when they want a urine sample. Then if you find evidence on the ground such as footprints, collect the soil from the print & any puddles that it may have stepped in & record on them the date & location & other suitable data. Then keep them filed & eventually it should be possible to identify the DNA. The police investigators are solving old crimes by re-examining evidence from crime scenes & undertaking DNA identification. If it can be done with identifying individual people it will be easy to identify an unknown human-like animal with the DNA having characteristics that are related to the great apes & humans. If DNA is found in a location such as Brisbane bushland & not near any zoo with apes & it has some resemblance to great apes it would help prove that an ape-like animal is inhabiting the locality.

Regards,

Gary

Gary, eh?
The way that man conducts his research and the way he strives to involve and educate the public, is one of the main inspirations for me to make the leap in 2012, after West Wyalong, and register here so that I could find some sort of katharsis with what had happened. I hope I have half the ticker he has when Im his age. God bless yah gazza.
Cheers

[David]

Paul. I have followed your research for a few years. I even tried to contact you on facebook over several trips I made to West Wyalong but received no reply. I am fascinated by your image and I think I can see the same things that you see which only leads me, and others to want to know everything possible about the image? I think the requests so far are for the raw file. With the lead up photos and after photos or if its a video the video file.

Paul. You have either done what I had come to believe after 8 years trying to be impossible and captured a yowie off guard or.. there is a more mundane reason for the image you are telling everyone is the first image of a yowie and are asking people on your facebook to spread the image widely.

The questions people are asking are no different than those that will be asked from anywhere in the world by people interested in legitimate research. Wouldn't you, if somebody flashed a nondescript frame of something in front of a trail camera to you, want to know more?

Dave

[Yowie bait]

Paul what you have pointed out of the mouth and nose is what i see too but it could be anything or anyone.

I dont approve of the threatening facebook rant at all but as interesting as the photo is, to call the image a "money shot" is really pushing it.

[paulmcleod67]

Understood matey.
But I won't be threatened by anyone. I also won't be told what to do or when I should do it.
I'm not scared of be labeled a hoaxer for one simple reason, I'm not.
And the truth will out it is said...I'm fine with that.

The comment he made about profiteering and fame pissed me off. I don't and have never made or asked for a single cent from yowie research and none of my yowie videos are even monetized, they are ad free and all in HD. As for fame....he's joking right? This topic is a credibility killer not a stage for fame and fortune, that just laughable. It's all personal risk, and expenditure, both of time and resources. It puts your personal life under incredible pressure and it costs relationships. And its all presented into the public domain for ONE reason, public awareness, loud noisey, sign waving, conversation starting public awareness. My methods are dangerous and my work output is pretty hectic, because that has not been tried before. Alone in the dark almost every night in places a dog wouldn't hang around. But nobody wants that job, and so it has not been widely tried on a consistent basis. But you know what....it's working.
And I think that is the real problem.

Cheers

[yowiedan]

Understood matey.
But I won't be threatened by anyone. I also won't be told what to do or when I should do it.
I'm not scared of be labeled a hoaxer for one simple reason, I'm not.
And the truth will out it is said...I'm fine with that.

The comment he made about profiteering and fame pissed me off. I don't and have never made or asked for a single cent from yowie research and none of my yowie videos are even monetized, they are ad free and all in HD. As for fame....he's joking right? This topic is a credibility killer not a stage for fame and fortune, that just laughable. It's all personal risk, and expenditure, both of time and resources. It puts your personal life under incredible pressure and it costs relationships. And its all presented into the public domain for ONE reason, public awareness, loud noisey, sign waving, conversation starting public awareness. My methods are dangerous and my work output is pretty hectic, because that has not been tried before. Alone in the dark almost every night in places a dog wouldn't hang around. But nobody wants that job, and so it has not been widely tried on a consistent basis. But you know what....it's working.
And I think that is the real problem.

Cheers

One thing that you did say Paul is that you have a clear picture of a Yowie and it is nothing but clear. All we see here is some animal that has come into camera shot and it could be anything from a wide range of creatures that live in the bush. Harry has made comments on your picture and your claims of what it is or isn't, but really he made those comments on his own group page and it's his right to free speech to say what he thinks. Australia is a free country and whatever you post will always have its followers and critics and if you can't handle the critics then get out of the cooking pot and don't have a dummy spit. I have had people say a lot of shite about things I have done and all I do is thank them for their opinion. If you're going to be annoyed when others disagree with your opinions then you're in the wrong field.

[hillbilly]

LOL.
Remember that there were a few questions asked of you Paul, in the last few posts on the previous page of this topic. Please address them as you can.
There was another post called "Blue Mountains Backyard Invasion" that suggested that you knew some info on that video footage. That seems to have been missed by yourself. Have you got anything to add to that suggestion?
Thanks Matey

[Dion]

LOL.
Remember that there were a few questions asked of you Paul, in the last few posts on the previous page of this topic. Please address them as you can.
There was another post called "Blue Mountains Backyard Invasion" that suggested that you knew some info on that video footage. That seems to have been missed by yourself. Have you got anything to add to that suggestion?
Thanks Matey

While everyone is at it and without getting to much into a fight, there were a few questions asked of some of Paul's photos in the thread "Best pictures of the Big, Hairy Bloke" on July 28 2016.

They can be found here: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=5253&start=120#p40726

If the questions below those photos could be answered that would be greatly appreciated. There was a reply by Paul but it did not answer the questions.

Also can you Paul tell me why the top Woronora River Photo in the above thread went through the program paint.net

Thanks

[inthedark]

There was another post called "Blue Mountains Backyard Invasion" that suggested that you knew some info on that video footage. That seems to have been missed by yourself. Have you got anything to add to that suggestion?
Thanks Matey

I'm still looking for the answers on that one, myself. I can't seem to find any indication that Paul has been asked, or has answered?

Seems really odd to me, given that it's a compelling piece of film. At least, I find it compelling just because of the cat crashing the party. That type of unplanned incident usually don't make it into hoax footage. Most hoaxers would just get rid of the cat and re-shoot. Too much risk of costume exposure to have the 'creature' hanging about having to deal with a pesky cat.

[AL Pitman]

Paul
Stick to your guns !
What is written on a post by a keyboard warrior is not worth a scrap .
Keep up with your good work and please please keep submitting your pics no matter how blurry or out of focus or whatever.
A lot of negative responses are simply just the work of individuals attempting to walk into the spotlight without leaving the comfort of their office chair .

[Yowie bait]

There was another post called "Blue Mountains Backyard Invasion" that suggested that you knew some info on that video footage. That seems to have been missed by yourself. Have you got anything to add to that suggestion?
Thanks Matey

I'm still looking for the answers on that one, myself. I can't seem to find any indication that Paul has been asked, or has answered?

Seems really odd to me, given that it's a compelling piece of film. At least, I find it compelling just because of the cat crashing the party. That type of unplanned incident usually don't make it into hoax footage. Most hoaxers would just get rid of the cat and re-shoot. Too much risk of costume exposure to have the 'creature' hanging about having to deal with a pesky cat.

Imo that blue mountains footage is just rubbish. An idiotic hoax at best. Next you all will be saying its Paul in the suit trying to hoax the yowie community. Lol!

If anyone on here or on facebook is sure of and can prove someone is using photo shop and faking images then i suggest they go ahead and prove it? Hoaxing makes us all look like fools .

[Dion]

This was just plonked onto my fb page

....Anyone who puts a claimed image of a yowie out in the public domain but refuses multiple requests to release the original, unaltered image sequence files, the camera specifications and the original EXIF or metadata is playing silly games and deserves to be treated as a hoaxer......

A word of warning - it is extremely unwise to treat others with a long interest and experience in this field as idiots......

...... Nor do we have to tolerate having our field of endeavour hijacked for some petty personal gain or a brief attempt at fame and fortune.

The patience fuse is very short but the result of ignoring this warning lasts a very, very long time. Remember Steve Piper and the others who have tried these shenanigans before? You have one last chance to release your best undoctored evidence or we will presume that you are a fraud and a hoaxer and deal with it accordingly. If your images are, as they indeed appear to be, nothing more than digitally manipulated creations then it's recommended that you take them all down and apologise to the yowie research community.......

I would have to agree with the above from Harry? Not how he went about it, but in what he had to say above. Paul you have refused to answer the hard questions from people which means you have something to hide does it not, which mind you has been going on for years, failing to provide the hard evidence to back up your claims means you have either a high disrespect for the members and researchers here or you have a high degree of stubbornness, which one is it?

People have the right to critique anybody's research if you have a problem with that you are in the wrong field. I have been critiquing peoples photos for years so if you think you are being singled out your not.

So why is that your Photos are always so pixelated and heavily edited? Especially in paint.net, but you cannot provide the original unaltered RAW files?

I would be most curious to know why?

....The comment he made about profiteering and fame pissed me off. I don't and have never made or asked for a single cent from yowie research and none of my yowie videos are even monetized, they are ad free and all in HD. As for fame....he's joking right? This topic is a credibility killer not a stage for fame and fortune, that just laughable.....

If you are not in it for fame and fortune then what is this thread about? viewtopic.php?f=45&t=5891

[Rusty2]

For anyone who thinks this line of questioning is rude , uncalled for or distasteful , blame Brett Green . He decieved many members here for long peroids of time with fake images which he stole off a BBC doco called Walking with Beasts so he could sell a book . My point is , AYR has been srewed over before , we must now double check the evidence because of people like Brett .

Because of people like Brett and Jason H , every member on this website has a right to know all the details of any photo or video of a supposed yowie . Yes , questions might be uncomfortable but if your making extraordinary claims then we must see the extraordinary evidence to back it up because the days of taking peoples word for pictures is gone .

This is also about science and science is about facts not opinions . The scientists are the gatekeepers and they will decide what is and isn't fact . Without facts there is no such thing as yowies .

Now I'm not going out of my way to deliberately hurt Paul's feelings but I'd like the truth , I don't think that's too much to ask for .
My questions are on the pictures below .

[hillbilly]

Paul
Stick to your guns !
What is written on a post by a keyboard warrior is not worth a scrap .

Great advice.
Your best critique will be from your peers. (hillbilly 2018)

Rusty, it is not rude to question a fellow member as to their unacceptable data, really. There is no need to justify a question here.


Seriously Paul, you have ignored / avoided questions. For us to take you seriously, we need for YOU to be an honest participant.

Right now, I am assuming you to be a fake. Sorry.

[Rastus]

For anyone who thinks this line of questioning is rude , uncalled for or distasteful , blame Brett Green . He decieved many members here for long peroids of time with fake images which he stole off a BBC doco called Walking with Beasts so he could sell a book . My point is , AYR has been srewed over before , we must now double check the evidence because of people like Brett .

Because of people like Brett and Jason H , every member on this website has a right to know all the details of any photo or video of a supposed yowie . Yes , questions might be uncomfortable but if your making extraordinary claims then we must see the extraordinary evidence to back it up because the days of taking peoples word for pictures is gone .

This is also about science and science is about facts not opinions . The scientists are the gatekeepers and they will decide what is and isn't fact . Without facts there is no such thing as yowies .

Now I'm not going out of my way to deliberately hurt Paul's feelings but I'd like the truth , I don't think that's too much to ask for .
My questions are on the pictures below .

Well said Rusty . I also have some concerns regarding the legitamcy of the supplied photographs. Whilst I dont claim to be an expert photo editor, there are a few things that immediatley leap out to me and make me question Pauls pictures. The photo where you ask " has this photo been manipulated?" looks to my eye and experience to be a very poor cut and paste /blend job. I am glad somebody with some credibility such as yourself has pointed this out and asked the big question as a person like myself that doesnt post here much would just be accused of stirring up poo .

I would like to be proved wrong about all this but a few other things have me feeling a bit sus deep down in my bones.

[yowiedan]

If these are clear pictures of a Yowie why are they being put through Paint.net???.

[Black]

To reiterate what Rusty2 said, 'Sir' Brett Green's deceitfulness has left a permanent stain on yowie research. If anything, it is proof there are people who think yowie reports and thus, yowie research, is a complete joke fit only for fools. A joke, where researchers, witnesses, and people who are interested, are fair game to be exploited and manipulated to satisfy perverse amusements and monetary profits.

The truth always comes out in the end, as 'Sir' Green has discovered, and he is washed up. Thats what happens when you treat people like sh!t. Two of his three big whoppers are well and truly debunked, with TNT poised to blow his third contribution to "Hoaxers Australia", to kingdom come, to make way for something real and useful - a highway.

The truth is, I've never met Paul first hand. I can't vouch for him personally, but perhaps other members here can? For all I know, his name, photo, research methods, and agendas, could all be an internet creation or social experiment on fringe subject researchers. I don't know?

'Sir' Green has taught us to be cautious, but I'm happy to hear Paul out, and get my facts straight before jumping to conclusions and bringing out the crucifixion cross. I think others here would do well to do the same?

[Searcher]

Black said:

'Sir' Green has taught us to be cautious, but I'm happy to hear Paul out, and get my facts straight before jumping to conclusions and bringing out the crucifixion cross.

So would I... but the silence at the moment is deafening. BTW, great pick up by eagle eye Rusty on the change of backgrounds! IMHO, that one salient point brings Paul's entire story undone. Prove me wrong, Paul. I'm listening.

[Black]

I too, noticed the absence of the 'cat' face in the latest posting. I'm umm, sure there is a rational explanation for the changing backgrounds of this already pitifully ambiguous still image?

Jesus, even Sir Green wasn't THIS incompetent.

[Yowie bait]

Well good on Rusty for taking the time to point out what others have alluded to but failed to point out.

[thehairyone]

Hi all , I am not normally one to criticize anyone even in life , but in this circumstance I feel I have to speak up ,

I have watched from afar all of Pauls contributions for a few years now , and I must admit I have found most of his "evidence "
questionable . The photos and videos provided are to be honest questionable , I don't doubt he had an experience back in 2012 in West Wyalong , but
my personal opinion Is he maybe has strived a bit too hard to prove what happened to him, at what expense ?

I would love to be proved wrong
But I have a nagging doubt since I first saw the picture in question that I have seen it before , god I hope im wrong , but im sure ive seen it before

The silence on his end really is deafening , PLEASE PAUL, PROVE US WRONG , give us all the relevant evidence as has been asked
Thanks Greg

[missm4mi]

great to see Paul getting out and about and actively researching and collecting information. his many hours of hard work have been well presented to the public. I have learned so much.

[Jim]

Some of us have been in the field for years and have nothing but scraps to show for it, if we're lucky. But every time Paul goes out he claims to capture footage of yowies? I'm sorry, but on that basis alone I'm skeptical of his evidence.

[Black]

What's with the impatience? The sky isn't going to fall down if Paul takes his time responding to these posts. If anything, the man seems dedicated and is actually in the Bush on location, which is more than most of us can say.

I suggest everybody put this on the back burner, get off his case, and worry about other things.

[yowiedan]

I have looked into alot of what Paul has been posting over a long period of time and never have seen anything in his evidence that says to me that its Yowie related. All the pictures are blurry and you can't make out anything from them. He posted a sound recording that was said by him as a Yowie howl but it was clearly a bird call. Then there is the Grigori eyeshine and I looked into this one very closely. I checked where the houses were around this area and there is houses in every direction. I have been out a lot in the field for around 15 years and know house lights from a distance when I see it. Now we have what he says a clear picture of a Yowie but anyone with knowledge of the bush can tell its a Macropod of some kind by the hair. Now we find out that the program Paint.net has been used to doctor this picture and the background changed. Has the imaged been cropped also. So many questions have been asked by so many long time researcher's on here who just want the TRUTH. why not ask the hard questions, because we are all over hoaxers and bullshit artists. It's only time before the hanging judge does his job.

[Yowiechow]

Paul lost me the minute he made claims that a yowie had taken William Tyrell.

[Simon M]

I agree with Black - we should give Paul time to answer these questions.

If he's not able to then people will draw their own conclusions, but I don't think ganging up on anyone is constructive or helpful. He may have used some software to change the contrast on an image (for example) or to sharpen it to bring out detail. We don't know.

Let's not jump to conclusions about the veracity of someone's work. Let's get all the facts on the table before we make a judgement call.

Having said that in Paul's defence, I've yet to see any video or still images by anyone that have 100% convinced me I'm looking at the real deal. I look at everything from the viewpoint of a sceptic. If there's a chance it could be an honest mistake or a deliberate hoax then I'll err on the side of it not being an image of a Yowie before I'll agree that it 'could' or 'might' be one.

Just to be clear, I've never seen one of these things myself - nor anything else that could be called supernatural or even out of the ordinary - and I've never once done any form of field research. I've just read loads of stuff and watched loads of stuff on this topic since I was a kid in the 1970's.

The sheer number of sightings by such a massive amount of people over the course of such a lengthy span of time has convinced me that people are seeing some kind of living creature. There's clearly something going on that we're not fully aware of.

Until I see something that convinces me beyond any reasonable doubt that it's fair-dinkum I won't be making any 'maybe' or 'it could be' statements. If I see a face, or video of one of them moving around that isn't blurry and indistinct, I'll be impressed. I still think that almost anything can be faked, though, especially today with all the digital tomfoolery that's available. Just look up some of those deepfakes videos and you'll totally believe that mainstream Hollywood actresses are regularly appearing in porn. It's never been easier to create a hoax from the comfort of your laptop, so I'm always sceptical.

[Shazzoir]

You both make excellent observations, Black and Simon, thank you.

I was going to post yesterday, but hesitated, as I wanted to be sure what I said could not be misconstrued.
Today, I post, because I have seen some fairly full-on responses to Paul's posts here in this thread, and he must be feeling some emotion over that, because I would if it were me.

I am firmly on the fence here, but believe that Paul has seen something(s), and at this point, we still do not know conclusively, what those things are. Car headlights, house lights, Yowie eyes, animal eyes... who knows?

I acknowledge the concerns about the images posted, i.e., that they are blurry, look pixellated, and so on. I assume (yes, I know that's dangerous) that the images Paul posted were parts of a larger image, and he has 'enhanced' them using software to make certain parts stand out/are more clear, then enlarged them. The addition of colour is something done in the scientific field also, particularly in magnified images, as it helps show depth or contour in flat images.

Demanding he show his RAW/original photo/still image is one thing, but he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to, and having so many not 'ask' but DEMAND to see them may not result in Paul feeling as if he should.

Yes, I know we've been burned before. Yes, I know we've seen our share of fakers previously. I don't like to think this has been Paul's intent, but pressure to 'deliver the goods' may have contributed to him posting many images and videos in hopes of proving his stance. Just remember, that no video or photo can truly express the full experience of going out there and walking around in the dark etc. on a regular basis, and hearing and seeing things the cameras don't capture. They are always going to be a physical object, but maybe not a conclusive one. Seeing with your own two eyes is the only way we'll know, and we can't do that, here. We're relying on Paul to do that, in his own way, and his way may not be your way of doing things.

If I had any critique, it would be to say not everything you can't see properly is going to be a Yowie - people have put forth their explanations and suggestions, and that's fair enough. That's what we do, question everything. We have to, to be scientific and to eliminate obvious mistakes/errors in judgement. I don't watch the videos anymore, because to my way of thinking, Paul moves his head cam too fast (or hand held, I'm not sure) and trying to track what's in the light is impossible. But I'm not out there, with the adrenaline and nerves dictating what I do, so I shouldn't judge.

In any case, Paul, if you choose to respond to the statements and thoughts that have dominated this thread in the past week, please do, if it will help us understand what you have shared here. I will also totally understand that you might feel slammed from all sides, too, and that that might be the last thing you feel like doing right now. If you have, however, fallen into the trap of feeling you need to keep posting bigger and better 'finds', and things have got a little out of control, now's the time to talk about it, I guess, if you wish to. Otherwise, things are going to be left unresolved, and more mystery is going to potentially do more damage than good.

Innocent until proven guilty, folks. Remember that. Let's wait and see how Paul addresses our concerns, and be civil until then.

Shazz

[inthedark]

It's gratifying, and confidence boosting, to see so much grounded and healthy skepticism here. To my mind, that's the only foundation the work can be built upon, when it comes to this subject matter. It is, after all, within the natural sciences. It would be a great shame to see this research driven by the need to prove something, and therefore worked backwards from a predetermined conclusion.

Having said that, I can't see any need to 'offend' in the process of pushing the scientific approach. My only problem with Paul's work (and I barely know his work, it must be said) is his location. It seems to me to be about the least likely sort of place a very shy, very rare, wilderness dwelling, 8 foot tall mammal would frequent. Not even the starving or desperate ones. Plenty of shy animals die of starvation without ever encroaching on human turf.

[inthedark]

Imo that blue mountains footage is just rubbish. An idiotic hoax at best. Next you all will be saying its Paul in the suit trying to hoax the yowie community. Lol!

Oh for sure, it's 99.99999% certain to be a hoax - like all BF 'footage'. I was hoping Paul, who apparently knows something about it, would give us the background info. Since a few people have asked for it, and such.