HAS ANYONE BEEN PHYSICALLY HURT

[adventurer]

Hi, I understand Dean and Paul has been hurt by the hairy man. Many stories of people who know someone who got hurt. But is there anyone else on this forum who has actually been physically harmed?
I havnt, but am interested on numbers and there stories on what exactly happened and if there is any familiarity within each stories.Thanks Dee

[yowiedan]

There are more stories of researchers being herded out of areas by a few Yowies who first circle them then make the researchers walk out back the way they came. If the Yowie was an animal that was aggressive we would have heard that on the audio reports on the Yowie Hunters Youtube channel. It must be in certain circumstances that they become aggressive, what that is no one knows!

[adventurer]

There are more stories of researchers being herded out of areas by a few Yowies who first circle them then make the researchers walk out back the way they came. If the Yowie was an animal that was aggressive we would have heard that on the audio reports on the Yowie Hunters Youtube channel. It must be in certain circumstances that they become aggressive, what that is no one knows!

Is that why they circle first. Never thought of it that way. Thanks.

[Pertys80]

What if the people that have the really aggressive encounters don't live to tell the tale?
I'd imagine Yowie's would be much like us humans, some are friendly, some are cagey, and some are just downright nasty..

[Dean Harrison]

I have ABSOLUTELY no doubt people have lost their lives to them in the past and will continue to in the future.

This not to say that they are all killers.

Just as in Humans and Animals, there is good in bad, and anything biological has its emotional ups and downs. I believe that most people who are alone in the forest that have an exceptionally bad run in with one, and too obligated into the bush for an escape, probably don’t live to tell their story, so we will never know about it.

Back when I still had some youthful energy around 18 or so years ago (!), I was doing an investigation into bush related missing people. I had a particular interest in Ormeau, as this was a location where I feel I had only just escaped with my life one night, and if I had not stopped to make a phone call on the edge of the bush before entering, I wouldn’t be here today. Some weeks later on television, a man went missing on the edge of the bush at night while waiting for friends to pick him up after work (after dusk), just around the corner from where I was chased, – never to been seen again. All that was left was his esky on the side of the dirty road.

Somehow I had located a number within the department of the missing person’s bureau (or whatever it may have been called), and they thinking I was an investigating officer, was promptly transferred to someone with a great deal of knowledge on the subject.

We chatted for some time in relation to the causes of the most common percentage of missing people and how many people are found at a later date. It turns out that most of the missing people turn up at some stage. I asked him what the breakdown was between missing people that are never found people in Cities/Towns, compared to missing people in the bush. I was told the statistics were significant. The statistics of missing people never to be found in the bush dramatically outweighed those of the City.

By now he was starting to wonder who I was, exactly which Department I was from and what investigation I was performing. The interview ended there…..

If I were not in a fortunate position to quickly get to cleared land at Ormeau, or didn’t have people there at Kilkivan, I have absolutely NO doubt in my mind I would not be here today. There is no question about it in my mind. The Ormeau Yowie was horrific. I have never seen anything like it. The raw aggression was beyond anything I have ever witnessed. The power of it was beyond belief.

My opinion is that lone bushwalker who crosses paths with an exceptionally bad one, and are obligated into the forest far from any escape, probably are not here to tell us about it. I have seen them in action and I can tell you from a firsthand perspective, you are defenceless. There is nothing you can do about it. You are helpless. Any attempt to defend yourself is futile. I do believe they are responsible for many missing people. I was nearly one.



DMH

[inthedark]

I have ABSOLUTELY no doubt people have lost their lives to them in the past and will continue to in the future.

This not to say that they are all killers.

Just as in Humans and Animals, there is good in bad, and anything biological has its emotional ups and downs. I believe that most people who are alone in the forest that have an exceptionally bad run in with one, and too obligated into the bush for an escape, probably don’t live to tell their story, so we will never know about it.

Back when I still had some youthful energy around 18 or so years ago (!), I was doing an investigation into bush related missing people. I had a particular interest in Ormeau, as this was a location where I feel I had only just escaped with my life one night, and if I had not stopped to make a phone call on the edge of the bush before entering, I wouldn’t be here today. Some weeks later on television, a man went missing on the edge of the bush at night while waiting for friends to pick him up after work (after dusk), just around the corner from where I was chased, – never to been seen again. All that was left was his esky on the side of the dirty road.

Somehow I had located a number within the department of the missing person’s bureau (or whatever it may have been called), and they thinking I was an investigating officer, was promptly transferred to someone with a great deal of knowledge on the subject.

We chatted for some time in relation to the causes of the most common percentage of missing people and how many people are found at a later date. It turns out that most of the missing people turn up at some stage. I asked him what the breakdown was between missing people that are never found people in Cities/Towns, compared to missing people in the bush. I was told the statistics were significant. The statistics of missing people never to be found in the bush dramatically outweighed those of the City.

By now he was starting to wonder who I was, exactly which Department I was from and what investigation I was performing. The interview ended there…..

If I were not in a fortunate position to quickly get to cleared land at Ormeau, or didn’t have people there at Kilkivan, I have absolutely NO doubt in my mind I would not be here today. There is no question about it in my mind. The Ormeau Yowie was horrific. I have never seen anything like it. The raw aggression was beyond anything I have ever witnessed. The power of it was beyond belief.

My opinion is that lone bushwalker who crosses paths with an exceptionally bad one, and are obligated into the forest far from any escape, probably are not here to tell us about it. I have seen them in action and I can tell you from a firsthand perspective, you are defenceless. There is nothing you can do about it. You are helpless. Any attempt to defend yourself is futile. I do believe they are responsible for many missing people. I was nearly one.



DMH

Scary!

Reminds me a bit of one of my favourite audio recordings of Australian encounters .. the guy out hunting rabbits off the Edith Road, southwest of Jenolan Caves. That struck me as one of the most potentially deadly encounters. The guy himself also strikes me as very credible. One of the few to focus on the depth of his own terror - a strong indicator of truth.

[Boab Bob]

It's sad to see people perpetuating the idea that the yowie has been killing people. It's just fringe 1990's X-Files balderdash and/or deliberate far right misinformation. Jews, blacks and muslims aren't enough? Of course the yowies can't defend themselves in print and in human society in general and what human will be their advocate while people who are meant to be responsible drift into conspiracy theory. As far as i know there is only one account of a death - a historical aboriginal story of a strangulation of a woman. Could well have been out of fright or even didn't happen and it was a 'crime of passion' between humans.

If you are swanking about and posing on trail while actually tracking a territorial relic hominid in it's home range and it bumps you out of the way.. that's NOT evidence that the yowie/hairyman is dangerous any more than similar creatures and humans themselves. In general, fear of the unknown seems to be a green light for this built-up fear-mongering.

[Pertys80]

It's sad to see people perpetuating the idea that the yowie has been killing people. It's just fringe 1990's X-Files balderdash and/or deliberate far right misinformation. Jews, blacks and muslims aren't enough? Of course the yowies can't defend themselves in print and in human society in general and what human will be their advocate while people who are meant to be responsible drift into conspiracy theory. As far as i know there is only one account of a death - a historical aboriginal story of a strangulation of a woman. Could well have been out of fright or even didn't happen and it was a 'crime of passion' between humans.

If you are swanking about and posing on trail while actually tracking a territorial relic hominid in it's home range and it bumps you out of the way.. that's NOT evidence that the yowie/hairyman is dangerous any more than similar creatures and humans themselves. In general, fear of the unknown seems to be a green light for this built-up fear-mongering.

No disrespect mate, but I think its a tad ignorant of yourself to think there has only been one death attributed to Yowie's in Australia..
Just think about how aggressive humans can be, and we're meant to be civilised..lol
You simply cannot paint all Yowie's with the same brush and assume they're all gonna be like Harry from "Harry and the Hendersons".
I think Yowie's share the same flight or fight response as we do, therefore making them extremely unpredictable, especially when we're on their turf.

[Boab Bob]

Ignorant? Of what? Where is your evidence that the yowies have killed anyone?

[Pertys80]

Ignorant? Of what? Where is your evidence that the yowies have killed anyone?

Lol.. A bit rich of you to be asking for evidence isn't it? I mean 90% of the population still believe Yowies are nothing but a myth, let alone responsible for some of the stranger disappearance's here in Aussie..
Do you not think that "any" incident pertaining to the existence of Yowie's would not be covered up by responsible authorities?
Try connecting the dots, maybe delve into Aboriginal folklore and see what they have to say about the Yowie..
Have you thought about environmental factors that could increase aggression? Something as small as heavy metals contaminating water ways could have an effect.
What about droughts? Its widely known that any predotory animal (Primates and Humans included) will become opportunistic when there is a food shortage..
Cannibalism was a big problem in Stalingrad when the Germans had the city surrounded during WW2..
And a couple more things.....
Since when did politics come into this? Comparing differing views on Yowies to far right misinformation? Wtf..
I'm non partisan so you didn't offend me there, but really bro, what was the point of that comment? Talk about misinformation.. lol
I'm not going to sit here and call you a leftard just because you have different views to me, that's just silly..
Oh and while you're there, please show some respect for Dean, you wouldn't be sitting here typing on this forum if it wasn't for him starting it.. What he went through was personal, and no other person has the right to tell him his life wasn't at risk, especially when they weren't there themselves..

[Yowie bait]

I doubt anyone could escape them if the yowie really wanted to take someone. They have the tools to decimate us if they wanted to but they let us go. Maybe running into a clearing or into a campsite may put them off. I dont know.

To answer Dees question, i have heard of someone getting bashed by a junjudee and another person " roughed up" by a yowie at tambourine and yeah theres the Aboriginal claims of cannibalism and abduction.

[inthedark]

It's just fringe 1990's X-Files balderdash and/or deliberate far right misinformation. Jews, blacks and muslims aren't enough?

Wow ... politics. You'd think this place would be clean, in that regard.

It's disappointing to see disparagement of others for their political views anywhere, but here it seems particularly out of place. I hope that every iteration of politics is represented in these forums, from the "far right" to the far left. No one has the moral high ground, and life would be an awful echo chamber if we only ever mixed with those of the same stripe.

[Wollemi Explorer]

I think that any animal which can push over healthy trees should be respected. The reports from Dean's personal encounters are enough to be a warning. Very real potential danger.
As for the "Jews, blacks and Muslims", Are you basing your study on media reports? (Manipulated truth) , Or first hand experience?
I totally agree with YowieBait, they would, and could, take you if they wanted to.

[Yowie bait]

I think that any animal which can push over healthy trees should be respected. The reports from Dean's personal encounters are enough to be a warning. Very real potential danger.
As for the "Jews, blacks and Muslims", Are you basing your study on media reports? (Manipulated truth) , Or first hand experience?
I totally agree with YowieBait, they would, and could, take you if they wanted to.

Hi Wollemi Explorer. Yes i really doubt anyone has actually escaped them especially at night in the bush.Theres a few very convincing reports where the witness wouldve been done for if the yowie had bad intentions. Women on their own at night too and kids.

Also just blindly running from them in fear could be dangerous in itself. Imagine running full pelt into a tree or off a gorge. Stuff that! Heart attacks would be possible depending on the individual.

I dont think theyre all peaceful and im sure theres some real nasty types but we cant judge them all as monsters. Theyre just a type of people like us and humans can be very annoying in the bush( their home) with all our many hobbies and pursuits.

[micathia]

Aren't there many similar cases that bodies were found (sometimes naked) at river bank in far deep bush?

I always think those particular scene were done by aggressive yowie/bigfoots. River bank could be a frequent place where other yowies/bigfoots come for water. A body put there meant to be shown to everyone, to send a message such as "Those humans are not to be feared" or "I. [insert a yowie's name] do not fear humans".

Something like that.

[micathia]

I have ABSOLUTELY no doubt people have lost their lives to them in the past and will continue to in the future.

This not to say that they are all killers.

Just as in Humans and Animals, there is good in bad, and anything biological has its emotional ups and downs. I believe that most people who are alone in the forest that have an exceptionally bad run in with one, and too obligated into the bush for an escape, probably don’t live to tell their story, so we will never know about it.

Back when I still had some youthful energy around 18 or so years ago (!), I was doing an investigation into bush related missing people. I had a particular interest in Ormeau, as this was a location where I feel I had only just escaped with my life one night, and if I had not stopped to make a phone call on the edge of the bush before entering, I wouldn’t be here today. Some weeks later on television, a man went missing on the edge of the bush at night while waiting for friends to pick him up after work (after dusk), just around the corner from where I was chased, – never to been seen again. All that was left was his esky on the side of the dirty road.

Somehow I had located a number within the department of the missing person’s bureau (or whatever it may have been called), and they thinking I was an investigating officer, was promptly transferred to someone with a great deal of knowledge on the subject.

We chatted for some time in relation to the causes of the most common percentage of missing people and how many people are found at a later date. It turns out that most of the missing people turn up at some stage. I asked him what the breakdown was between missing people that are never found people in Cities/Towns, compared to missing people in the bush. I was told the statistics were significant. The statistics of missing people never to be found in the bush dramatically outweighed those of the City.

By now he was starting to wonder who I was, exactly which Department I was from and what investigation I was performing. The interview ended there…..

If I were not in a fortunate position to quickly get to cleared land at Ormeau, or didn’t have people there at Kilkivan, I have absolutely NO doubt in my mind I would not be here today. There is no question about it in my mind. The Ormeau Yowie was horrific. I have never seen anything like it. The raw aggression was beyond anything I have ever witnessed. The power of it was beyond belief.

My opinion is that lone bushwalker who crosses paths with an exceptionally bad one, and are obligated into the forest far from any escape, probably are not here to tell us about it. I have seen them in action and I can tell you from a firsthand perspective, you are defenceless. There is nothing you can do about it. You are helpless. Any attempt to defend yourself is futile. I do believe they are responsible for many missing people. I was nearly one.



DMH

Looking from google map, Omeau today is quite developed. Where that aggressive yowie stood has been surrounded by houses now right?

[Dean Harrison]

Hi Micathia,

Yes, its called Bridge Creek. A forest corridor between two estates. A lot more built up now of course.

They have a long history of coming into such areas and fringes of Human population where the surrounding bush is expansive. Its nothing new.

My original Post was simply stating the obvious inherent dangers. Nothing more.



DMH

[inthedark]

Aren't there many similar cases that bodies were found (sometimes naked) at river bank in far deep bush?

Hypothermia. Paradoxical undressing is a common symptom. The river thing is also related to the thermostat going haywire ... the individual will sometimes seek water to cool down.

Almost all of these 'missing' persons, lost in wilderness areas, are simple hypothermia cases. There would be a small number that are accident related, of course - falls etc - and possibly a few predations (bears, or whatever is predatory in the area). An even tinier percentage would be victims of crime. The average person doesn't have nearly enough knowledge of hypothermia, and the relatively mild conditions in which it can can occur. We therefore tend to look for some other explanation for the odd behaviour of the lost individual. Odd behaviour which is not at all odd in hypothermia!

[Yowie bait]

Hi Micathia,

Yes, its called Bridge Creek. A forest corridor between two estates. A lot more built up now of course.

They have a long history of coming into such areas and fringes of Human population where the surrounding bush is expansive. Its nothing new.

My original Post was simply stating the obvious inherent dangers. Nothing more.



DMH

Thanks Dean for explaining that. It makes sense they would be encountered in these areas as well as properties that fringe the bush. I know someone that had what sounds like a junjudee peeking in through the back door with its face up against the screen. Just outside Bisbane in a newly cleared estate. He was very skeptical before that. Has since heard something what from his description sounded very much like a yowie howl as well.