How an Academic deals with his own Yowie Sighting....

[Mad Academic]

Yowie is recognised by us. Thats 10 times more important than being recognised by academia.

Spot on ripperton if we are going to wait till academia solves the problem we'll be here till doomsday.

Please continue, O Enlightened One!
Give us the evidence we so desperately seek!

Oh, that's right; you don't have any.

[CuriousCat]

Hi,

I’m sorry I haven’t read all of the replies on this thread.

I did read the report.

I know that there was mention of no other reports of similar “freezing” behaviour. But as far as I can recall there is.

There is a report on here, close to me, that states something similar to, - I was driving in my car at night when cresting the hill and my headlights caught a dark figure standing by the side of the road. I did not stop driving and kept going. It was weird because the creature just stood perfectly still as if pretending not to be seen. I thought - well I can still see you there buddy, as I was driving past”.

That is me very badly paraphrasing what the report on here said.

The person reporting found it weird and funny that the creature just froze and pretended not to be seen.

So I am hoping the scientist reads this too.


On another note there is a ted talk from a lady scientist who is very excited talking about h. Naledi.
She explains in the ted talk that she thinks there might be some clarification as to the age of the fossils in the same caves the scientist here talks about. She said there seems to be some evidence that it might be more recent in time than what science first believed.

Here is the link........

https://youtu.be/B1oGNPvLeOY

Hope this helps.

Would love to hear more and contribute more. I have some other info too.

Cheers Curios Cat

[AL Pitman]

Firstly welcome to this crazy forum curious cat !
I think I recall that report and the freezing, see me not attempt at concealment.
Was the one at upper Orara , west of Grafton ??
Good call !!

[gregvalentine]

That's right we don't have any but if you venture over to the Yowie Controversial, Conjecture and Fringe Subject Matter Discussion and my topic Evidence Pertaining To The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti you will find people have a far greater interest in an alternative explanation (supernatural) 52,000 than anything Academia has to offer and that's a fact.

The guy from the documentary linked from from this Sasquatch Chronicles entry seems to think so also:

https://sasquatchchronicles.com/the-spo ... -bigfoot-2

[sensesonfire]

That's right we don't have any but if you venture over to the Yowie Controversial, Conjecture and Fringe Subject Matter Discussion and my topic Evidence Pertaining To The Origins of Bigfoot/Yowie/Yeti you will find people have a far greater interest in an alternative explanation (supernatural) 52,000 than anything Academia has to offer and that's a fact.

The guy from the documentary linked from from this Sasquatch Chronicles entry seems to think so also:

https://sasquatchchronicles.com/the-spo ... -bigfoot-2

Good video Greg, This guy Bart Nunnelly's beliefs in this creature being a supernatural being able to transition between a physical form and a supernatural spirit is identical to mine. He doesn't believe they are flesh and blood. The next-door neighbour with his fully loaded shotgun when encountering this Bigfoot creature directly in front of him had no time to even point his gun before it literally disappeared in front of his eyes.

Once again we have reported sightings on a Cherokee sacred burial ground a common theme it seems.
Another interesting incident when the slaughtered dogs were dumped on his property they had been surgically incised with the entrails, eyes, tongue removed -nothing else same thing that has occurred in other animal and cattle mutilation reports around the world Israel, USA even Australia although in these cases the offenders were apparently aliens.

We know that there is a supposed correlation between UFOs, Aliens and Bigfoot so is there a connection?
My comment should probably be posted on the Controversial and Conjecture section but as I said trying to segregate any paranormal explanations with the flesh and blood beliefs is nigh impossible.

Cheers.

[aaq]

Hi,

I’m sorry I haven’t read all of the replies on this thread.

I did read the report.

I know that there was mention of no other reports of similar “freezing” behaviour. But as far as I can recall there is.

There is a report on here, close to me, that states something similar to, - I was driving in my car at night when cresting the hill and my headlights caught a dark figure standing by the side of the road. I did not stop driving and kept going. It was weird because the creature just stood perfectly still as if pretending not to be seen. I thought - well I can still see you there buddy, as I was driving past”.

That is me very badly paraphrasing what the report on here said.

The person reporting found it weird and funny that the creature just froze and pretended not to be seen.

So I am hoping the scientist reads this too.


On another note there is a ted talk from a lady scientist who is very excited talking about h. Naledi.
She explains in the ted talk that she thinks there might be some clarification as to the age of the fossils in the same caves the scientist here talks about. She said there seems to be some evidence that it might be more recent in time than what science first believed.

Here is the link........

https://youtu.be/B1oGNPvLeOY

Hope this helps.

Would love to hear more and contribute more. I have some other info too.

Cheers Curios Cat

H. Naledi seems to have a very small skull, but the interesting part was the coexistence with other known humans 200-300kya.

H. Tsaichangensis is interesting too - large jaw and 10-100kya, but only a single jawbone. Not spoilt for samples like H. Naledi.

https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles ... 169795.htm

But it's good that people are talking about coexistence of a few different Homo species, rather than a linear evolution, in Europe and Asia.

Surely if people can connect the dots in Europe and Asia they can do so in Australia...

[rowbe]

I believe the sighting by the academic may be a game changer, especially here in Australia. Although he may not come forward publicly, his view on his work has changed. He would most likely continue with his current research associated with cultural locations, but now he has a reason to look at new directions. After initial shock and a period of time to take in what he has seen, he will most likely be excited to learn more. After all it would be what a Paleontologist could only dream about ... finding a living fossil (even though we think no Yowie fossils have been found, supposedly). His academic experience would be invaluable for this area.

Unfortunately, the world of archaeology and paleontology, etc is an old profession and unfortunately generally governed by people with set beliefs. It would be professional suicide to come out and report the sighting officially without a scrap of physical evidence. Someone with practical experience in this area should be working with the guy, there is a lot we could learn from each other.

An area of research - mapping previous sightings with cultural locations. Huge work but may prove beneficial if any link could be formed. At least we could utilise such work to concentrate on certain smaller areas, etc. Could be done more easily by someone already working/researching in a similar area.
Food for thought!

[Yowie88]

Wow, just wow.

I was thinking at what point would the yowie go from standing still to "trying" to hide to attacking/bluff charging the poor Academic. His mind must be
spinning.

[Yowie bait]

Wow, just wow.

I was thinking at what point would the yowie go from standing still to "trying" to hide to attacking/bluff charging the poor Academic. His mind must be
spinning.

Maybe it wasnt hiding but instead letting itself be seen by the witness to distract the witness from seeing a young one in the area or from seeing the other 2 or 3 which were probably surrounding him?

I find it hard to believe a yowie is that stupid that it wouldnt notice a human climbing a steep hill or fall off a cliff in front of a truck etc, etc.

I mean they are supposed to be masters of stealth and impossible to see and all that but still they kept getting caught out?

Either way Yeah wouldve great if it stood up or walked or run off as then the witness would have seen how it moves and how tall it was.

[rowbe]

There was that report where a "Yowie" hid its face behind a tree branch, whereas the rest of it's body was in the open - I can't see you so you cannot see me.

Maybe being on a steep slop (and visible below) the yowie thought it best to stay still, hope the human walks past and does not notice him. Plus the guy did act as though he did not notice the entity. Still though it is difficult to come to grips with, why didn't he move off much earlier, surely he did see the human begin him hike up the slope.

Maybe the hairy wanted him closer!

[Yowie bait]

There was that report where a "Yowie" hid its face behind a tree branch, whereas the rest of it's body was in the open - I can't see you so you cannot see me.

Maybe being on a steep slop (and visible below) the yowie thought it best to stay still, hope the human walks past and does not notice him. Plus the guy did act as though he did not notice the entity. Still though it is difficult to come to grips with, why didn't he move off much earlier, surely he did see the human begin him hike up the slope.

Maybe the hairy wanted him closer!

Makes me wonder if they sometimes want to be seen!?
Unfortunately all the witnesses can do is tell us what happened and what they think it was up to. Anything else on their part is just speculation.

I have a few times stood perfectly still in plain view in high vis gear in the bush when ive seen other people and they never saw me. Once even waved and the guy didn't see me so I'm sure its much easier if you blend in like a hairy does. Not 100% effective obviously and must look pretty dumb if you saw it doing it.

[rowbe]

[Makes me wonder if they sometimes want to be seen!?
Unfortunately all the witnesses can do is tell us what happened and what they think it was up to. Anything else on their part is just speculation.

I have a few times stood perfectly still in plain view in high vis gear in the bush when ive seen other people and they never saw me. Once even waved and the guy didn't see me so I'm sure its much easier if you blend in like a hairy does. Not 100% effective obviously and must look pretty dumb if you saw it doing it. ]

Yowiebait, any ideas or theories why, you think, they may want to be seen.
I was thinking about this - I was thinking of possible reasons why they may want to be seen - maybe newer generations are not as wary of humans, humans are encroaching rapidly on hairies domain and hairy territories are getting smaller, younger hairies (males) may need to set territory closer to humans because traditional unclaimed areas are limited or maybe he/she was having a bad day and was not going to move. Maybe a more sinister reason??

Agree re hard to see anything in the bush, especially if there is no movement. Most people walking in the bush are watching the path or area to be traveled and not searching left or right, etc. Unless there is movement, it probably wouldn't be noticed.

[rowbe]

Sorry forgot how to include quote from someone else - can someone provide a reminder please.

[Yowie bait]

[Makes me wonder if they sometimes want to be seen!?
Unfortunately all the witnesses can do is tell us what happened and what they think it was up to. Anything else on their part is just speculation.

I have a few times stood perfectly still in plain view in high vis gear in the bush when ive seen other people and they never saw me. Once even waved and the guy didn't see me so I'm sure its much easier if you blend in like a hairy does. Not 100% effective obviously and must look pretty dumb if you saw it doing it. ]

Yowiebait, any ideas or theories why, you think, they may want to be seen.
I was thinking about this - I was thinking of possible reasons why they may want to be seen - maybe newer generations are not as wary of humans, humans are encroaching rapidly on hairies domain and hairy territories are getting smaller, younger hairies (males) may need to set territory closer to humans because traditional unclaimed areas are limited or maybe he/she was having a bad day and was not going to move. Maybe a more sinister reason??

Agree re hard to see anything in the bush, especially if there is no movement. Most people walking in the bush are watching the path or area to be traveled and not searching left or right, etc. Unless there is movement, it probably wouldn't be noticed.

Hey Robe, i like those theories of yours. They all sound fair enough. Some hairys would probably be living very close to civilization and maybe we will have more sightings in a few years close to city's as massive development continues on the outskirts of the towns and rural areas.


Surely there would be some land owners in remote areas sharing the property with the yowies and they would know a bit more about them or maybe what some of the displays and signs mean?

In this particular encounter , could it have been just letting the witness know it was in the area?. Like a non passive territorial display? And like Yowie 88 says, who knows what would of happened if the witness would have hung around? Certainly god rid of him in a hurry if that was the intention.

Still if its such an elusive creature, that is uncomfortable being seen by humans then why does it get seen so much in non territorial type situations?

Theres been a few of the roadside sightings where it stood still like the lady in the car watched one and it stood still and moved its eyes or the junjudee in Qld that showed up at the campfire and stood still with its eyes
looking the other way like it wanted to be there but didnt know what to do? Thats kind of an uncomfortable situation. Weird!!

[Yowie bait]

Sorry forgot how to include quote from someone else - can someone provide a reminder please.

You have to click on the qoute button level with the top of the post you are qouting. More that three qoutes i dont know how to do?

[Yowie bait]

Hey sorry ROWBE i spelt your name wrong!

[rowbe]

Hey sorry ROWBE i spelt your name wrong!

No problems yowiebait I've been called worse. Sorry for delay in reply, been moving house.
It is weird behaviour, especially the Junjadee walking to campfire and not moving/looking other way. I can understand if caught in the open, a reaction would be to remain still and hope they are not seen. Like you said its hard to see something in the bush if it is not moving. Not sure if this behaviour is similar to behavioural research regarding primates - may explain some behaviour.

Re the hairy in the sighting just sitting there, obviously he must have known that the person was coming his/her way. If it is a behaviour associated with territory, why not just show aggression and chase the human away. Maybe close up some of them may not be familiar with our prowess or should I say weakness (not familiar with our abilities - e.g., their territory is not close to human habitation), and therefore fearful (wary) to use physical aggression.

Yes, I wonder what would happen if the academic stuck around. A result being increased aggression or more communicative contact? Also I wonder if the behaviour would be different if there were two or more humans. For example, one on one no problem, one on two or more probably more reason to hide and watch.

Just my thoughts, but it is interesting.

[Bÿrn Jaoél]

Something about this report is off to me. I think it may be the clumsy, non-academic way he described the difference between hominin and hominin. ALL hominins ARE hominids. Hominideae is the family of primates including ALL apes. Hominin refers to the sub-family of primates WITHIN Hominideae representing all descendants of CHLCA (chimp/human last common ancestor), including genera such as Orrorin, Australopithecus, Homo etc.

I find his cumbersome description of these differences kind of suspicious.

[Bÿrn Jaoél]

Something about this report is off to me. I think it may be the clumsy, non-academic way he described the difference between hominin and hominin. ALL hominins ARE hominids. Hominideae is the family of primates including ALL apes. Hominin refers to the sub-family of primates WITHIN Hominideae representing all descendants of CHLCA (chimp/human last common ancestor), including genera such as Orrorin, Australopithecus, Homo etc.

I find his cumbersome description of these differences kind of suspicious.

It’d be the equivalent of a zoologist saying...
“It wasn’t a Fox I saw, it was a canid.”

[Bÿrn Jaoél]

It’d be the equivalent of a zoologist saying...
“It wasn’t a Fox I saw, it was a canid.”
[/quote]

Hominids and hominins are not separate lineages, rather
the latter is nested within the former.

[aaq]

It’d be the equivalent of a zoologist saying...
“It wasn’t a Fox I saw, it was a canid.”

Hominids and hominins are not separate lineages, rather
the latter is nested within the former.
[/quote]

I believe he had put it in the broad category of hominid, then questioned whether it was a hominin such as Homo S., but when he wasn't confident he reverted to the broader hominid umbrella.

So I believe he was saying "I thought it could be a fox, but I'm not convinced it is so it's something [else] in the canid category."

[Yowie bait]

Hey sorry ROWBE i spelt your name wrong!

No problems yowiebait I've been called worse. Sorry for delay in reply, been moving house.
It is weird behaviour, especially the Junjadee walking to campfire and not moving/looking other way. I can understand if caught in the open, a reaction would be to remain still and hope they are not seen. Like you said its hard to see something in the bush if it is not moving. Not sure if this behaviour is similar to behavioural research regarding primates - may explain some behaviour.

Re the hairy in the sighting just sitting there, obviously he must have known that the person was coming his/her way. If it is a behaviour associated with territory, why not just show aggression and chase the human away. Maybe close up some of them may not be familiar with our prowess or should I say weakness (not familiar with our abilities - e.g., their territory is not close to human habitation), and therefore fearful (wary) to use physical aggression.

Yes, I wonder what would happen if the academic stuck around. A result being increased aggression or more communicative contact? Also I wonder if the behaviour would be different if there were two or more humans. For example, one on one no problem, one on two or more probably more reason to hide and watch.

Just my thoughts, but it is interesting.

Yes its all very contradictory. A creature that is not supposed to exist that apparently evades humans and doesn't like to be seen but is seen constantly and usually doing nothing and in situations that it could have easily avoided simply by waiting a few minutes or keeping quiet.

Theres also the encounters where the subject alerts the witness beforehand like the little one Yowie Dan saw after he heard voices close before seeing the thing behind the tree.

Theyre often reported mirroring peoples footsteps which is probably part of the territorial scare tactics.

It seems also possible that sometimes the young ones give them away and the adults have to distract the witness to "fix up" the situation whuch is a common theory.