What is this thing

[Yowie bait]

Sounds like something doesn't like you taking the fish!

Yowie bait, your experience shows. Great pick up. While we were more focused on the pics, you have noted something simple and obvious. You are right, it definitely seems like it didn't like creeper taking the fish - probably it's territory and creeper was taking prey. Do you have any recommendations for creeper?
Should he leave a gift (of food maybe) when he revisits? Anyone?

I did notice the pick of the structure (if it is), the bank down to the water is well worn (could be anything, roos, etc). That's why I asked re fresh or salt water.

Hi Rowbe and Creeper. I dont know if I should be giving advice or if leaving food is the right thing to do if you are living in the vicinity? If it is Yowie or Alpha Yowie who knows what it would be thinking?

Best thing Creeper could do is talk to the other locals but I think he has done that. It's not like everyone has access to an Aboriginal elder but that could help. They would probably say to leave an offering.

I have stayed on a few properties when I was young that had Yowies coming close and around during the day and at night. They didn't seem to pay much attention to it and saw it or them often so became familiar with each other I guess.

Another place the bloke was terrified of them and was paranoid walking us around his own property.

They are all different from the sounds of it and some that get angry at just about anything.

There is a few threads on here about Yowies on properties with advice from experienced researchers that don't post anymore that would be helpful.

[Thecreeper]

Yer the roars i got something inside me said get out or u will die i dunno wat it was im part aboriginal so not sure if it was 2 do eith that or not but definitely didnt grt the vibe of hey mate can i have that fish if u no wat i mean but if i ever do go that spot again ill make sure to try it anyway

Yer iv herd stories of the junjudee and never anything nice

My sister is on the land coucil in my area i was going to go with her last year after my other experience down at the other river system around my area but by the time the next meeting come along covid had kicked off so they cancelled them till i think sunday is the first 1 back so i might go along and have a chat to the old blokes without

[Thecreeper]

Between the roars
the pics
and what i can only guess was a yowie i seen in a massive gum tree 1 morning that i thought was like a massive mistletoe knot which i laughed to myself that it looked like it had a face then when i went fishing up a creek that come off the main river for 10 mins and come back out only to realise it was gone man it would of been wider then i stretch my arms out
Anyway all this has happened on a stretch of what 5km of the river one side it national park with locked gates till 7am ever day and the other side is sand stone cliffs thst back onto a army barracks
Its sorter freaky thinking about is that y its nationalpark and is that y there is a army barracks on the otherside so people dont go snooping around

[Yowie bait]

Yer the roars i got something inside me said get out or u will die i dunno wat it was im part aboriginal so not sure if it was 2 do eith that or not but definitely didnt grt the vibe of hey mate can i have that fish if u no wat i mean but if i ever do go that spot again ill make sure to try it anyway

Yer iv herd stories of the junjudee and never anything nice

My sister is on the land coucil in my area i was going to go with her last year after my other experience down at the other river system around my area but by the time the next meeting come along covid had kicked off so they cancelled them till i think sunday is the first 1 back so i might go along and have a chat to the old blokes without

Ive been smashed by the roar as well. I reckon even a large animal would be stunned by that.

You should go to that meeting. It would be a great chance to get some advice.

[rowbe]

Agree with Yowie bait you should go to the meeting. Great opportunity. Would like to hear anything from it, if you are able.

Creeper, just interested re your fishing. What type of fish was it that you caught? When out, do you plan to go fishing and the sighting/sounds (roar) etc are a result of you being in that area or do you go out looking for hairies or the like and fishing just passes the time?

Sounds stupid, just interested. Many go out looking and never see anything, and those that are out for other reasons often get reactions.
When I used to fish, most freshwater fish I caught were spangled perch, but I'm from central Queensland. Please don't indicate where, otherwise the area will be frequented by many - happened before and spoilt great location.

[rowbe]

Was just doing a quick search re related info to this thread, you may find it interesting (just a cut and past of some of the text) ... (note the TC refers to different participants to maintain anonymity, e.g. TC1 or TC14, etc).

"This comment indicates the ways in which Aboriginal Custodians draw together spiritual beliefs and connections to country. The same Custodian explained that our spirituality is not based on a structured religion, it's based on our connection to land (TC11). Custodians also sometimes referred to Dreamtime stories in the process of defining the broader cultural and spiritual significance of their connections to country.
Aboriginal cosmology is embedded in all aspects of the natural environment. A Traditional Custodian explained the interconnection of spiritual beliefs and country by saying [a] the waterways are significant because… our dreamtime and creation stories are all encompassed around the waterways, the mountains, the coastal areas (TC14).
Others referred to their experiences in particular places within country with spiritual beings like the moondagudda, junjadees (TC1), and the tall man (TC14). Spirits such as these, that exist in (land and water) country, guide the behaviour and decisions of some participants who expressed a key principle in respecting those spirits. For example, certain practices must be conducted, including talking to [the] ancestors (TC7) when visiting the river, to show respect to those spirits.
Another participant described a practice they undertake when fishing, associated with ancestor spirits: After they'd caught their fish, they would have to rebury the bones back in the bank where they caught the fish. So that next time, there'd be more fish to catch for them to eat (TC14).
Customary practices, such as mentioned above, convey respect for non-human beings in the country and indicate that spiritual beliefs are important to Custodians wanting to ensure the health of ecosystems".

Reference:
Pinner B, Ross H, Jones N, Babidge S, Shaw S, Witt K, Rissik D . 2019. A custodial ethic: Indigenous values towards water in Moreton Bay and Catchments. In: Tibbetts IR, Rothlisberg PC, Neil DT, Homburg TA, Brewer DT, & Arthington AH (Eds). Moreton Bay Quandamooka & Catchment: Past, present, and future. The Moreton Bay Foundation. Brisbane, Australia. Available from: https://moretonbayfoundation.org/

[Thecreeper]

Yer the roars i got something inside me said get out or u will die i dunno wat it was im part aboriginal so not sure if it was 2 do eith that or not but definitely didnt grt the vibe of hey mate can i have that fish if u no wat i mean but if i ever do go that spot again ill make sure to try it anyway

Yer iv herd stories of the junjudee and never anything nice

My sister is on the land coucil in my area i was going to go with her last year after my other experience down at the other river system around my area but by the time the next meeting come along covid had kicked off so they cancelled them till i think sunday is the first 1 back so i might go along and have a chat to the old blokes without

Ive been smashed by the roar as well. I reckon even a large animal would be stunned by that.

You should go to that meeting. It would be a great chance to get some advice.

Yer mate i cant explain the feeling but i just new to leave or id die and all i wanted to do was paddle as fast as i could and get get but something just kept telling me to just paddle off like nothing happened and just listen to the bush

Yer i will mate ill even bring up wat rowbe posted and see what is said

[Thecreeper]

Agree with Yowie bait you should go to the meeting. Great opportunity. Would like to hear anything from it, if you are able.

Creeper, just interested re your fishing. What type of fish was it that you caught? When out, do you plan to go fishing and the sighting/sounds (roar) etc are a result of you being in that area or do you go out looking for hairies or the like and fishing just passes the time?

Sounds stupid, just interested. Many go out looking and never see anything, and those that are out for other reasons often get reactions.
When I used to fish, most freshwater fish I caught were spangled perch, but I'm from central Queensland. Please don't indicate where, otherwise the area will be frequented by many - happened before and spoilt great location.

Hey mate i chase australian bass all catch and release quick pic and back in the water
Nah mate just fishing the other river iv had stuff happen at over the last 12 months is only 5 mins from my house but after the charge i got i wont go out of daylight hours which sucks because it was my fav spot and to go back in the last couple of months and just get back a bit late as it was getting dark with my brother in law and still have something follow us its ruined for good now well i wont go anywhere now in the kayak out of daylight hours even the new spot everything that has happened there has been between sun up and 7 am so its a worry what might be happening at night

The worst of it is iv always struggled with depression and anxiety and fishing was my release and i cant enjoy it with 1 eye over my shoulder all the time when it all started to happen at this new area i honestly thought i was loosing the plot and started telling myself its all in my head like u learn to do having panic attacks but then when the roars and the being followed happenef and i got the audio and the pics it was a massive relief when my missus abd dad and the rest of my family listened to the recording abd all of them said rhey could hear it then they seen the pics and they could all see it i atleast no i havnt totally lost thr plot but its defiantly ruined the area for me

[Dion]

Was just doing a quick search re related info to this thread, you may find it interesting (just a cut and past of some of the text) ... (note the TC refers to different participants to maintain anonymity, e.g. TC1 or TC14, etc).

"This comment indicates the ways in which Aboriginal Custodians draw together spiritual beliefs and connections to country. The same Custodian explained that our spirituality is not based on a structured religion, it's based on our connection to land (TC11). Custodians also sometimes referred to Dreamtime stories in the process of defining the broader cultural and spiritual significance of their connections to country.
Aboriginal cosmology is embedded in all aspects of the natural environment. A Traditional Custodian explained the interconnection of spiritual beliefs and country by saying [a] the waterways are significant because… our dreamtime and creation stories are all encompassed around the waterways, the mountains, the coastal areas (TC14).
Others referred to their experiences in particular places within country with spiritual beings like the moondagudda, junjadees (TC1), and the tall man (TC14). Spirits such as these, that exist in (land and water) country, guide the behaviour and decisions of some participants who expressed a key principle in respecting those spirits. For example, certain practices must be conducted, including talking to [the] ancestors (TC7) when visiting the river, to show respect to those spirits.
Another participant described a practice they undertake when fishing, associated with ancestor spirits: After they'd caught their fish, they would have to rebury the bones back in the bank where they caught the fish. So that next time, there'd be more fish to catch for them to eat (TC14).
Customary practices, such as mentioned above, convey respect for non-human beings in the country and indicate that spiritual beliefs are important to Custodians wanting to ensure the health of ecosystems".

Reference:
Pinner B, Ross H, Jones N, Babidge S, Shaw S, Witt K, Rissik D . 2019. A custodial ethic: Indigenous values towards water in Moreton Bay and Catchments. In: Tibbetts IR, Rothlisberg PC, Neil DT, Homburg TA, Brewer DT, & Arthington AH (Eds). Moreton Bay Quandamooka & Catchment: Past, present, and future. The Moreton Bay Foundation. Brisbane, Australia. Available from: https://moretonbayfoundation.org/

Nice find rowbe.

[Dion]

In regards to the photos, Its important to stay grounded with these sort of things, I love the debate and enthusiasm but I guess people will see what they want to see and if thats the underlying position from any photo....... its most probably going to be a case of pareidolia, Its certainly not a clear cut photo.

To me I see what looks like a cormorant sitting on a branch but hey that just my opinion.

The roar heard to me would be more interesting and worth further investigation however.

[sensesonfire]

Was just doing a quick search re related info to this thread, you may find it interesting (just a cut and past of some of the text) ... (note the TC refers to different participants to maintain anonymity, e.g. TC1 or TC14, etc).

"This comment indicates the ways in which Aboriginal Custodians draw together spiritual beliefs and connections to country. The same Custodian explained that our spirituality is not based on a structured religion, it's based on our connection to land (TC11). Custodians also sometimes referred to Dreamtime stories in the process of defining the broader cultural and spiritual significance of their connections to country.
Aboriginal cosmology is embedded in all aspects of the natural environment. A Traditional Custodian explained the interconnection of spiritual beliefs and country by saying [a] the waterways are significant because… our dreamtime and creation stories are all encompassed around the waterways, the mountains, the coastal areas (TC14).
Others referred to their experiences in particular places within country with spiritual beings like the moondagudda, junjadees (TC1), and the tall man (TC14). g Spirits such as these, that exist in (land and water) country,uide the behaviour and decisions of some participants who expressed a key principle in respecting those spirits. For example, certain practices must be conducted, including talking to [the] ancestors (TC7) when visiting the river, to show respect to those spirits.
Another participant described a practice they undertake when fishing, associated with ancestor spirits: After they'd caught their fish, they would have to rebury the bones back in the bank where they caught the fish. So that next time, there'd be more fish to catch for them to eat (TC14).
Customary practices, such as mentioned above, convey respect for non-human beings in the country and indicate that spiritual beliefs are important to Custodians wanting to ensure the health of ecosystems".

Reference:
Pinner B, Ross H, Jones N, Babidge S, Shaw S, Witt K, Rissik D . 2019. A custodial ethic: Indigenous values towards water in Moreton Bay and Catchments. In: Tibbetts IR, Rothlisberg PC, Neil DT, Homburg TA, Brewer DT, & Arthington AH (Eds). Moreton Bay Quandamooka & Catchment: Past, present, and future. The Moreton Bay Foundation. Brisbane, Australia. Available from: https://moretonbayfoundation.org/

Interesting rowbe but notice the emphasis is placed on spiritual beings. Exactly what the indigenous people call them “Yō-wī” a spirit that roams over the earth at night.
No confirmation bias BS that one other forum member suggested just straight out facts.

[adventurer]

Hi Creeper, i believe you heard and felt there was something there following and watching you, and hopefully the photo is what you want it to be. I thought it was a roo but who knows? I just wanted to say a while back i posted on this section "Picture" about Rons mate Gareth who took a great photo, and it was a great photo, even Garry Oppit was blown away by it. Sadly the photo was of a stump. Dissapointed to say the least but at least we knew the outcome by them going back to retake the photo. Its all research. I wish you the best of luck. Have attached the pic. Dee

[Austral]

I also thought roo , but the ears are different. It is a strange face.

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[Thecreeper]

Hey all cheers for the comments and the thoughts on it yer iv gotta get out and take more pics

Only little wallabies out there and whatever this was its at atleast 7ft tall and was walking threw the bush following me for ages it definitely walked on 2 feet and with having something smashing threw the bush at me and roaring like nothing iv ever herd befor 2 days befor getting the pics i dont know wat to think

As iv said on the way back that day i had a look for the spot and couldnt find it as the black i seen that made me stop to take the pics after hearing the thing following me wasnt there

If weather permitted and the missus doesnt kill me because its valentines day ill try head out in the am and take some pics its hard as the new kayak i was using when i took these pics got stolen 2 nights after that and my old 1 is a pain to load
The low lifes stole it from my ute all strapped up ready to go early in the morning the next day not 1 camera got anything not my house and houses in the street or the 5 businesses u gotta pass to leave my street to get to the main road

Dad tried to scare me and said maybe the yowies come took it for annoying them the pricks haha

[sensesonfire]

Only little wallabies out there and whatever this was its at atleast 7ft tall and was walking threw the bush following me for ages it definitely walked on 2 feet and with having something smashing threw the bush at me and roaring like nothing iv ever herd befor 2 days befor getting the pics i dont know wat to think

Hi creeper, I think I was the first to suggest a possible kangaroo but I've never seen a black roo with what looks like a thick hairy neck.

A seven-foot tall creature walking on two feet following you through the woodlands and hearing something smashing through the bush and roaring like nothing you have heard before suggests only one creature to me. Yowies are generally not known to smash through the bush but apparently the forbidden word on here Dogman do. Many stories in the US where witnesses report these creatures crashing through the undergrowth like the sound of a bulldozer to confront humans.

These entities are in Australia people have had full-on encounters with them just because humans can't fathom a Dogman doesn't dismiss the fact that they are here.

As iv said on the way back that day i had a look for the spot and couldnt find it as the black i seen that made me stop to take the pics after hearing the thing following me wasnt there

Creeper you've kept your word but no doubt the pareidolia brigade will be bitterly disappointed.

[rowbe]

I guess the only way to remove any doubt, one way or the other, would be to return to the same place and take a pic from relatively the same area as the previous ones.

The photo Adventurer posted was exactly the one I was thinking of re pareidolia. If you open the photo up you can also see what looks like a second face lower down, looking like a mother and young, but alas it was a tree stump. The other give away re tree stump is the straight up and down of the body of the image (no body definition).

[Bluedog]

If Creeper returns to the spot the photograph was taken and there's nothing there it really doesn't prove much.
Out of all the possibilities of what it may have been what are the chances it was a yowie or a dog man?
Like Dion said it may have been a cormorant, someone else mentioned it may be a kangaroo.
It may have been a group of cockatoos.
To suggest a blurry photo is a yowie or a dog man is a huge call.

[Thecreeper]

If Creeper returns to the spot the photograph was taken and there's nothing there it really doesn't prove much.
Out of all the possibilities of what it may have been what are the chances it was a yowie or a dog man?
Like Dion said it may have been a cormorant, someone else mentioned it may be a kangaroo.
It may have been a group of cockatoos.
To suggest a blurry photo is a yowie or a dog man is a huge call.

Ok mate so when a couple of days befor u record something smashing threw the bush at me and roaring at me till i go away and then a couple of days later in the same area i have something following or stalking me in the bushline that would be as heavy as a horse walking on 2 feet then i take a couple of pics when i see something in the bushline but dont no wat it is and then when i come back later to the same spot where i took the pics and i dont see that thing i took the pics of in that area anymore your suggestion is basically dont bother chasing it up coz even when i go back and take pics knowing there wont be anything there that means nothing so who cares

If u took the time to read the title and some of the comments u would realise i posted to see what people think about it and in regards to your post in another thread i didnt once post it and say it is dog man
if u took the time and looked at the posts u would see i even said iv never bought into the whole dogman thing
What i said was i dont no what it is but it looks like the head of a big dog or wolf and knowing where it was its head is at atleast 7ft
i thought it would interest people to see it but dont worry people like u are the reason a lot of good blokes dont post any more or even look at the site anymore

Theres been plenty of good ideas on the thread about it and plenty of discussion but next time i get anything that could class as interesting or something i have happen to me i just wont bother with it
cheers mate

[Bluedog]

Calm down bloke,
Don't take it personally!
I appreciate you asked for advice and peoples opinions. (and no you haven't once suggested it was a dogman)
I'm not going to apologise for being the voice of reason.
You asked what is thing, posted your pictures publicly on site. Don't pack the shits when I question them.
Sorry if I've offended you. But you need cop everyone's opinions of your pics on the chin.
If you like them or not!

[sensesonfire]

Calm down bloke,
Don't take it personally!
I appreciate you asked for advice and peoples opinions. (and no you haven't once suggested it was a dogman)
I'm not going to apologise for being the voice of reason.
You asked what is thing, posted your pictures publicly on site. Don't pack the shits when I question them.
Sorry if I've offended you. But you need cop everyone's opinions of your pics on the chin.
If you like them or not!

Hey Bluedog what was that about confirmation bias?

[sensesonfire]

To all those out there telling The creeper to go out and take more photos, in other words, repeating the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different result if that's not confirmation bias I don't know what is.

[Bluedog]

Again "senses" I won't apologise for being the voice of reason.
Your beliefs or opinions arnt necessarily mine, like my opinion isn't yours.
But to suggest a blurry pic is a dogman or any other crypitid deserves to be questioned?
My comment about conformation bias, did it hit a raw spot?

[Thecreeper]

Calm down bloke,
Don't take it personally!
I appreciate you asked for advice and peoples opinions. (and no you haven't once suggested it was a dogman)
I'm not going to apologise for being the voice of reason.
You asked what is thing, posted your pictures publicly on site. Don't pack the shits when I question them.
Sorry if I've offended you. But you need cop everyone's opinions of your pics on the chin.
If you like them or not!

Dont take it personally?
U come in to the thread basically on a power trip being the voice of reason
I asked for peoples opinions and thoughts on the pics i took
there is no need to come in and question anything i asked for everyones opinion not just the ones u approve or agree with
If i was really worried about what some people thought or worried about being offended i wouldnt of bothered posting it

I dont know y people have to come in just to have a dig a 1 of the members thats been posting on my thread and a few have to do every time this member posts about anything
Like i said befor we will all look like mugs if the memebers opinion and beliefs turns out to be the answer to all of our the questions so maybe untill its proven otherwise dont go out of your way to try shoot them down

[adventurer]

To all those out there telling The creeper to go out and take more photos, in other words, repeating the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different result if that's not confirmation bias I don't know what is.

Hi Senses, i just thought if he went back and saw a stump or something, he would know it wasnt what he thought it may be. Creeper certainly knew a 7" whatever was around, but he may have taken a photo of a roo or whatever, doesnt mean the yowie/ dogmen wasnt there, just means the pic may not have been of it.

I vividly recall once in the dark a large rock got thrown down in a creek bank, ( I was on the other side ), i immediately looked to see through branches as to where it landed and i saw a roo standing there staring at me, i was confused as i gathered the roo would have hopped of with the rock being thrown so close to it. What im saying is just because i saw something else, being a roo, doesnt mean a yowie wasnt in the vicinity as well. Maybe just maybe he took a pic of something else and the 7" ? was there still somewhere. I could easily say " Hey the yowie must have shape shifted into a roo, but i cant, i didnt see any shapeshifting, not to say i dont believe in that, i just simply didnt see the transition.
So if creeper didnt see a yowie, dogmen and took the pic, no one will ever know what it is.

Good on Creeper for getting out and about and you know your and i ideas are the same.Just trying to help. Keep up the good work. Dee

[Bluedog]

Calm down bloke,
Don't take it personally!
I appreciate you asked for advice and peoples opinions. (and no you haven't once suggested it was a dogman)
I'm not going to apologise for being the voice of reason.
You asked what is thing, posted your pictures publicly on site. Don't pack the shits when I question them.
Sorry if I've offended you. But you need cop everyone's opinions of your pics on the chin.
If you like them or not!

Dont take it personally?
U come in to the thread basically on a power trip being the voice of reason
I asked for peoples opinions and thoughts on the pics i took
there is no need to come in and question anything i asked for everyones opinion not just the ones u approve or agree with
If i was really worried about what some people thought or worried about being offended i wouldnt of bothered posting it

I dont know y people have to come in just to have a dig a 1 of the members thats been posting on my thread and a few have to do every time this member posts about anything
Like i said befor we will all look like mugs if the memebers opinion and beliefs turns out to be the answer to all of our the questions so maybe untill its proven otherwise dont go out of your way to try shoot them down

OK mate, enjoy your echo chamber. I won't comment again.

[Thecreeper]

Im really sick and tired of the whole paranormal vs flesh and blood im sick and tired of peoples opinions not being the same as others opinions or belief and it being a problem

Its no wonder when people hear about the topic of bigfoot yowies any cryptids and the paranormal they automatically think a person that believes in or have experienced things is crazy as a cut snake because look at us

At the end of the day we all agree there is something in the Australian bush and the rest of the world that isnt suppose to be there and for some unknown reason we arnt being told about it so maybe everyone should settle the down learn to get along and maybe get out from behind the keyboards and have a look
at the end of the day we all believe something is out there or we wouldnt be on this site

This site is 1 of my escapes from a longer list of things that have happened to me and that is happening around the world that is a whole lot bigger then yowies or dogman or watever so cut the petty stuff out enjoy the fact people still have a belief or a opinion because the way the world is heading right now that wont be aloud to happen sooner or later

Rant over

[sensesonfire]

To all those out there telling The creeper to go out and take more photos, in other words, repeating the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different result if that's not confirmation bias I don't know what is.

Hi Senses, i just thought if he went back and saw a stump or something, he would know it wasnt what he thought it may be. Creeper certainly knew a 7" whatever was around, but he may have taken a photo of a roo or whatever, doesnt mean the yowie/ dogmen wasnt there, just means the pic may not have been of it.

I vividly recall once in the dark a large rock got thrown down in a creek bank, ( I was on the other side ), i immediately looked to see through branches as to where it landed and i saw a roo standing there staring at me, i was confused as i gathered the roo would have hopped of with the rock being thrown so close to it. What im saying is just because i saw something else, being a roo, doesnt mean a yowie wasnt in the vicinity as well. Maybe just maybe he took a pic of something else and the 7" ? was there still somewhere. I could easily say " Hey the yowie must have shape shifted into a roo, but i cant, i didnt see any shapeshifting, not to say i dont believe in that, i just simply didnt see the transition.
So if creeper didnt see a yowie, dogmen and took the pic, no one will ever know what it is.

Good on Creeper for getting out and about and you know your and i ideas are the same.Just trying to help. Keep up the good work. Dee

Hi Dee I fully agree with your approach go back look again, take pictures to dismiss pareidolia but I think Thecreeper said he went back to the spot but couldn't find it because the black he had seen wasn't there so he obviously thought he was in the right vicinity.

There are some people Dee, not you of course who will never accept a paranormal Yowie, Dogman or anything that doesn't fit their ideology you and I know different.

Cheers.

[adventurer]

To all those out there telling The creeper to go out and take more photos, in other words, repeating the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different result if that's not confirmation bias I don't know what is.

Hi Senses, i just thought if he went back and saw a stump or something, he would know it wasnt what he thought it may be. Creeper certainly knew a 7" whatever was around, but he may have taken a photo of a roo or whatever, doesnt mean the yowie/ dogmen wasnt there, just means the pic may not have been of it.

I vividly recall once in the dark a large rock got thrown down in a creek bank, ( I was on the other side ), i immediately looked to see through branches as to where it landed and i saw a roo standing there staring at me, i was confused as i gathered the roo would have hopped of with the rock being thrown so close to it. What im saying is just because i saw something else, being a roo, doesnt mean a yowie wasnt in the vicinity as well. Maybe just maybe he took a pic of something else and the 7" ? was there still somewhere. I could easily say " Hey the yowie must have shape shifted into a roo, but i cant, i didnt see any shapeshifting, not to say i dont believe in that, i just simply didnt see the transition.
So if creeper didnt see a yowie, dogmen and took the pic, no one will ever know what it is.

Good on Creeper for getting out and about and you know your and i ideas are the same.Just trying to help. Keep up the good work. Dee

Hi Dee I fully agree with your approach go back look again, take pictures to dismiss pareidolia but I think Thecreeper said he went back to the spot but couldn't find it because the black he had seen wasn't there so he obviously thought he was in the right vicinity.

There are some people Dee, not you of course who will never accept a paranormal Yowie, Dogman or anything that doesn't fit their ideology you and I know different.

Cheers.

Hi, its tough Senses, its normal to find other explanations of what could have happened, and try to find a scientific view on it all.
I think if i went in the bush for the 3 years and if i saw 1 drinking from a creek, followed it and it was gone, i would assume it went behind a tree.
If i never saw a gliding figure, never got touched, never got any communication with them,never saw a dissapearance in front of my eyes, never had 1 walking out behind me stomping his feet while invisible, never had hundreds of rocks thrown at my side with no sight of anything throwing it, and without having any thing abnormal happen, i would struggle deeply thinking they were anything but f&B. I WOULD wonder why the heck theres stuff all evidence of these creatures if i thought they were living all over our national parks though. So i fully understand there struggle believing all this stuff. Hence i have never knocked anyone coming out with me, to show and prove to them this really happens.Geez, 1 ended up in a bloody nut house.Iv always said they have to see it, to believe it.Thats why i try stay in the contro section so not to upset anyone, most know my views and would be happy to hear anyones scientific explanations iv been through, but to no avail yet. Stick to what we know and keep learning. Dee

[sensesonfire]

Hi, its tough Senses, its normal to find other explanations of what could have happened, and try to find a scientific view on it all.
I think if i went in the bush for the 3 years and if i saw 1 drinking from a creek, followed it and it was gone, i would assume it went behind a tree.
If i never saw a gliding figure, never got touched, never got any communication with them,never saw a dissapearance in front of my eyes, never had 1 walking out behind me stomping his feet while invisible, never had hundreds of rocks thrown at my side with no sight of anything throwing it, and without having any thing abnormal happen, i would struggle deeply thinking they were anything but f&B. I WOULD wonder why the heck theres stuff all evidence of these creatures if i thought they were living all over our national parks though. So i fully understand there struggle believing all this stuff. Hence i have never knocked anyone coming out with me, to show and prove to them this really happens.Geez, 1 ended up in a bloody nut house.Iv always said they have to see it, to believe it.Thats why i try stay in the contro section so not to upset anyone, most know my views and would be happy to hear anyones scientific explanations iv been through, but to no avail yet. Stick to what we know and keep learning. Dee

Hi Dee,
I'm not being patronising but what you have revealed from your field research as far as I'm concerned makes you the number 1 authority on Yowies the only other person on parr with you would possibly be Dean Harrison.

We both know these are interdimensional beings mine is only opinion but you know from experience. People just don't seem to understand that paranormal doesn't just mean spirit form these creatures are able to manifest in physical form as well.

Anyway if ever I'm out searching in the bush I might have to give you a call all be it a forlorn one seeing I'm over here in the West.

[adventurer]

Hi, its tough Senses, its normal to find other explanations of what could have happened, and try to find a scientific view on it all.
I think if i went in the bush for the 3 years and if i saw 1 drinking from a creek, followed it and it was gone, i would assume it went behind a tree.
If i never saw a gliding figure, never got touched, never got any communication with them,never saw a dissapearance in front of my eyes, never had 1 walking out behind me stomping his feet while invisible, never had hundreds of rocks thrown at my side with no sight of anything throwing it, and without having any thing abnormal happen, i would struggle deeply thinking they were anything but f&B. I WOULD wonder why the heck theres stuff all evidence of these creatures if i thought they were living all over our national parks though. So i fully understand there struggle believing all this stuff. Hence i have never knocked anyone coming out with me, to show and prove to them this really happens.Geez, 1 ended up in a bloody nut house.Iv always said they have to see it, to believe it.Thats why i try stay in the contro section so not to upset anyone, most know my views and would be happy to hear anyones scientific explanations iv been through, but to no avail yet. Stick to what we know and keep learning. Dee

Hi Dee,
I'm not being patronising but what you have revealed from your field research as far as I'm concerned makes you the number 1 authority on Yowies the only other person on parr with you would possibly be Dean Harrison.

We both know these are interdimensional beings mine is only opinion but you know from experience. People just don't seem to understand that paranormal doesn't just mean spirit form these creatures are able to manifest in physical form as well.

Anyway if ever I'm out searching in the bush I might have to give you a call all be it a forlorn one seeing I'm over here in the West.

Thanks Senses but im sure i havnt had near as much experiences as others. I think we just hit a good hotspot where they ENTER. Not sure if im lucky or unlucky going through this.Absolutely they can show in physical form. Happy to chat anytime.