My Strange Encounter (as requested by three forumites)

[Tiwar]

My strange encounter

By Tiwar
For Dean Harrison’s AYR only. 2022.

In 2008/2009 I went camping just East of Lock 9 on the Murray River near Cullulleraine on the Victorian-New South Wales border. I’ve forgotten exactly what month it was but it wasn’t the middle of summer, nor was it too cold. It might have been spring.

There were 7 of us and two dogs. I was 30 at the time.

The first night the camp was set up a few feet from the bush on a small dirt clearing back from the river a little ways.
It wasn’t ideal but considering our late arrival it was good enough for the night.

I had a two-man tent which I was sharing with my Labrador. The rest of the group were divided into the three caravans they had; two people per van. One couple was my mother and father and the others were family friends.

Sometime after turning in, which would have been around 21:00/22:00 but no later (typical camping bedtime for me), I could hear a bipedal creature walking around, stopping, walking some more, stopping, and so on. I knew it wasn’t Aussie wildlife as I know what they sound like and for a brief moment I actually thought there was possibly some nutter out there...but the footsteps were far too heavy with a much longer stride than a human. It never seemed to get closer but rather it went back and forth from west to east and back again. It can’t have been any further than 50 feet at most from my tent when it passed directly by.

My dog was highly alert, but not barking - I told him to stay quiet and he did - but he was also busting to get into the caravan a few meters away. I thought that was odd as he had always shared my bed, being my best mate and all. I put him into my parents caravan so he was comfortable and secure and I stayed in the tent...just listening. Eventually, during one of the creatures pauses, I fell asleep. I previously asked my father if he heard the footsteps and he did but wasn’t concerned and claimed it was “probably a kangaroo.”

I didn’t believe this as I know the sounds of kangaroos whether they hop, skip, or walk (each has its own distinctive sound) as I’ve spent a fair few years living in remote areas and travelling to and through very remote areas around the country (the Gunbarrel Highway and Aboriginal communities in the deserts, for example) and camping out in the deserts, bush, and forests.

The next day we set up camp closer to the river and I parked my station wagon about 15 feet from the start of the bush, on the same type of grey dirt clearing as before. I decided to sleep in it as it was warmer and more comfortable…and maybe instinctively I knew it felt safer. I can’t be certain.

During the evening while we were all sitting around the fire cooking our meals I occasionally got the feeling of being watched but put it down to paranoia as “I knew there were no predators” out there. However, the feeling remained.

I ended up going to bed in the back of my station wagon at around 22:00 or earlier and then at around 03:00 I was awoken by something - I don’t know what - and it all had a very eerie feeling, a very strange atmosphere was over the camp..like something out of the twilight zone. I was sure people were up and walking around the fire due to seeing shadows and hearing talking but when I looked out the window no one was there...it was if whatever it was simply vanished. I got out of the wagon to have a further look and it was dead silent, no one was there. It was too quiet, even for the middle of the night. I stood around the fire for a moment waiting to hear people getting back into bed - to confirm that they were indeed up and awake - but I heard nothing.

I needed to take a leak so I walked towards the bush - around 15 feet away. While there I again had the distinct feeling of being watched, this time it was a somewhat creepy feeling along with what mirrored the feeling I had when woken up minutes earlier. It, or them, must have only been a few meters away from me at best..it felt very close. I finished up and got back into my car. It just felt wrong. I never heard anything further and eventually went back to sleep.

This feeling of being watched happened almost every night I was there but I wasn’t awoken again like on the second night. I did get some odd feelings of being observed quite frequently and found myself just staring into the dark bushland on quite a few occasions in the evenings. I did get up a couple of more nights to take a leak and had the same feeling of being watched while standing at the bush line. I’ve never had any problems being out in the wilderness in the dark and so it was a bit odd. I’ve been to places so remote they aren’t even on maps and I’ve never experienced such things.

Besides the above, the rest of the time there was relatively normal. All up it was around a week.

The strangest part of all of this is that while what I experienced was really very odd I wasn’t really aware of Yowies and so forth in a matter of fact way (I’d heard about them of course but gave them no serious thought) and it wasn’t until some years later that I put the two together and made sense of it. My instinct and senses told me something was out there watching and lurking around our camp but I simply had no idea what it could of been. Knowing what I know now, I know that that camping trip attracted the attention of them or something of a similar nature as there is simply nothing else out there that does this.

The weirdest part of it all was the way I was awoken in the night; that was truly a very odd and bizarre feeling and the whole atmosphere surrounding the camp was just off.

Notes:

Something similar may have occurred in a Northern Territory Desert in the late 90s but I can’t be sure. I was about 19 at the time. Same with the Nullarbor Plain.

Batemans bay, two or more occasions while out on the quad bike. Eerie feelings like being watched and followed - to the point that I had to get out of there as fast as I could - and when I turned off the bike to listen it was silent…too silent. I thought it strange and creepy at the time but had no idea what I was dealing with. I was 14 at the time.

Most of my outdoors life has occurred in the NT, from Kulgera to Darwin and the many places in between; in the Kimberly in WA around Wyndham and Kununurra; also in the Pilbara. I’m based in SA and have camped out at various places here but it’s not as interesting as up north so I don’t do it as much. I’ve camped out in and travelled around every state except Tasmania.

[aaq]

Thanks for sharing tiwar, that sounds pretty unsettling.

I've only really had the feeling of being watched from the bush once, West of Stanthorpe. It was distinct, and it's also distinct when you don't have that feeling. Have been in the bush in lots of places, including scenic rim and Conondale and have felt nothing - so I think the feeling is valid.

[Tiwar]

Thanks for sharing tiwar, that sounds pretty unsettling.

I've only really had the feeling of being watched from the bush once, West of Stanthorpe. It was distinct, and it's also distinct when you don't have that feeling. Have been in the bush in lots of places, including scenic rim and Conondale and have felt nothing - so I think the feeling is valid.

It is.

The way I was awoken in the night was very strange. It was like waking from a dream world and going straight into another dream world but knowing you’re actually up and awake in the real world. I don’t have the words to explain how it all felt. It was truly bizarre to step out of the car expecting to see someone but to find nothing. I remember standing there thinking to myself “WTF just happened, where is everyone?”

It was the strangest thing as mere seconds before I clearly saw shadows within my car and the light of the fire being interrupted like when someone walks in front of it. The moment I lift my head to look out the window no one is there. Less than 2 seconds pass between seeing and hearing the last movements when laying down looking out the window and seeing the fire directly out the window once propped up. People can’t move that fast. I stood there listening for people to get back into bed as caravan walls are quite thin and you hear everything through them.

I didn’t even connect the walking creature of the first night to the bizarre situation of the second at the time. I didn’t connect any of it at the time and so bias or wishful thinking wasn’t a factor. I wouldn’t wish to see them anyways as what I believe the collective evidence shows them to be, and to originate from, is not something I’m interested in entertaining.

I’m not a fan of theirs.

[aaq]

Yeah the dream/shadows is very interesting. I'm not sure how well you know Queensland but I was camping in Conondale a couple of months ago, and my tent has a fly that can remain open above the head, while the fly screen is down. It was a beautiful night but I had no desire to wake in the middle of the night and have something staring down at me.

I know what you mean about not wanting anything to do with them.. Around a year ago I naively went on a couple of short walks by myself in known areas with an SLR and short telephoto lens. Laughable, there was no way I would have seen anything. But also very lucky I didn't...

[aaq]

Yeah the dream/shadows is very interesting. I'm not sure how well you know Queensland but I was camping in Conondale a couple of months ago, and my tent has a fly that can remain open above the head, while the fly screen is down. It was a beautiful night but I had no desire to wake in the middle of the night and have something staring down at me.

I know what you mean about not wanting anything to do with them.. Around a year ago I naively went on a couple of short walks by myself in known areas with an SLR and short telephoto lens. Laughable, there was no way I would have seen anything. But also very lucky I didn't...

No desire to wake up with something staring at me so closed the fly.

[Tiwar]

Yeah the dream/shadows is very interesting. I'm not sure how well you know Queensland but I was camping in Conondale a couple of months ago, and my tent has a fly that can remain open above the head, while the fly screen is down. It was a beautiful night but I had no desire to wake in the middle of the night and have something staring down at me.

I know what you mean about not wanting anything to do with them.. Around a year ago I naively went on a couple of short walks by myself in known areas with an SLR and short telephoto lens. Laughable, there was no way I would have seen anything. But also very lucky I didn't...

Yep.

I can understand, and even appreciate, people looking for them and trying to capture the best shot in the world but I personally have no desire to encounter anything again. There’s no good that can come from it in my opinion. There’s no experts in this field and most people have no idea what they’re truly dealing with, even the experienced guys. I say this with the utmost respect for actual field researchers. They have a very healthy curiosity to continue in spite of negative experiences.

I do appreciate the snippets I get to see from a computer screen and I also like to listen to the encounters of others. I do this as a way of trying to understand their motives for engaging with humans; I also think some of their motives are crystal clear to all who can see.

My views on them are certainly in the minority and that’s fine; I don’t share much or interfere with the work of others. I’m often very vague in saying exactly what I think of them but for clarity I’ll state it outright here:

They’re Nephilim.

I had concluded this long before I started to seriously consider other similar biblical subjects as potentially true. I don’t adhere to a religion.

This sounds crazy to most interested in the subject and that’s fine. Bigfoot itself sounds crazy to the majority of people overall. People can think and do as they please without it concerning me. I’ve never been interested in what the majority think.

[sensesonfire]

They’re Nephilim.

I had concluded this long before I started to seriously consider other similar biblical subjects as potentially true. I don’t adhere to a religion.

This sounds crazy to most interested in the subject and that’s fine. Bigfoot itself sounds crazy to the majority of people overall. People can think and do as they please without it concerning me. I’ve never been interested in what the majority think.

Hi Tiwar, You say you are non-religious but merry Christmas anyway. In my opinion, you are 100% correct they are the result of Nephilim activity but you will be hard-pressed to convince the F&B supporters that these creatures are anything but that although some big-name researchers are leaning towards the paranormal Bigfoot and Yowies even researchers like Ron Morehead who declares that these creatures can materialize from inside trees and James ''Bobo'' Fay from Finding Bigfoot fame. I believe they have a physical and interdimensional presence and definitely not flesh, blood and bone as in human anatomy. I've moved away somewhat from Yowies and Bigfoot my main focus now is on Dogman now that's something else entirely.

[Tiwar]

They’re Nephilim.

I had concluded this long before I started to seriously consider other similar biblical subjects as potentially true. I don’t adhere to a religion.

This sounds crazy to most interested in the subject and that’s fine. Bigfoot itself sounds crazy to the majority of people overall. People can think and do as they please without it concerning me. I’ve never been interested in what the majority think.

Hi Tiwar, You say you are non-religious but merry Christmas anyway. In my opinion, you are 100% correct they are the result of Nephilim activity but you will be hard-pressed to convince the F&B supporters that these creatures are anything but that although some big-name researchers are leaning towards the paranormal Bigfoot and Yowies even researchers like Ron Morehead who declares that these creatures can materialize from inside trees and James ''Bobo'' Fay from Finding Bigfoot fame. I believe they have a physical and interdimensional presence and definitely not flesh, blood and bone as in human anatomy. I've moved away somewhat from Yowies and Bigfoot my main focus now is on Dogman now that's something else entirely.

Hi,

I’m not religious as all religions are control systems, very much like political systems; this is the entire point of them. They are constructed by men and often use legitimate concepts, themes, real historical events, and emotional blackmail to their own ends. That doesn’t mean I’m not aware of the spiritual reality that I’m quite sure you’re aware of (I’ve read some of your posts so I think we’re probably on the same page on that). I don’t need corrupt men telling me what is right, what to think, what to do and how to do it when I can access the source. (Anyone can if they choose)
Thus I see no significance in the historically false and materialistic consumerist Holiday of Christmas.

Easter, while the term is unsuitable and originates via hijacking the Pagan Ēastre/Ostara, is a significant Holiday that has real meaning.

I too have been looking into “dogman” for a few years. They are werewolves; however, the notion that werewolves are merely a man changing into a wolf is a complete fabrication. That was never the case.

If we trace the etymology of the term it shows it literally means man-wolf. This is exactly what they are, a hybrid. Nephilim.

werewolf (n.)
late Old English werewulf "person with the power to turn into a wolf," from wer "man, male person" (from PIE root *wi-ro- "man") + wulf (see wolf (n.); also see here for a short discussion of the mythology). Belief in them was widespread in the Middle Ages. Similar formation in Middle Dutch weerwolf, Old High German werwolf, Swedish varulf. In the ancient Persian calendar, the eighth month (October-November) was Varkazana-, literally "(Month of the) Wolf-Men."

https://www.etymonline.com/word/werewol ... ine_v_7922

Old Germanic languages used terms that were quite literal. They meant what they said, not something else. The exception is of course old poetry of Iceland, Scandinavia, and England. That stuff is full of kennings.
This etymological dictionary is invaluable; however, I’ve spotted a few of corruptions over the years of using it so don’t depend on it 100%. The successful use of such a tool requires one to have at least some understanding of languages. I don’t necessarily mean being bi-lingual or a even a polyglot, but to comprehend how words are formed and the origins of them.
I’ve been into languages my whole life and while I’m not an expert in anything (experts don’t exist) I do have a good understanding of the Germanic language group specifically (and our linguistically corrupted modern English) and European languages in general and the etymological origins of words.

The part "person with the power to turn into a wolf” is a much later concept intended to hide the reality of their existence. History is full of reports of cynocephalus people…and many other strange hybrids. I don’t completely trust history either as it’s scattered with lies, deceptions, and fabrications intended to confuse and deceive. Most things people take for granted as factual are pure nonsense.

“Dogman” seems to be a term constructed to hide exactly what they are…who doesn’t love dogs?! The big-shots in that “scene” aren’t trustworthy either. All controlled-opposition in my view.

Few see history for what it was, even less see the present for what it is.

[Dion]

^^^^ Excellent post Tiwar ^^^^

Thanks for contributing.

[Tiwar]

^^^^ Excellent post Tiwar ^^^^

Thanks for contributing.

You’re very welcome.

[Bluedog]

Thank you Tiwar for posting your experiences and your beliefs regarding the Nephilim, I'm enjoying reading this thread and will be following it to see where it leads.

[sensesonfire]

Easter, while the term is unsuitable and originates via hijacking the Pagan Ēastre/Ostara, is a significant Holiday that has real meaning.

I too have been looking into “dogman” for a few years. They are werewolves; however, the notion that werewolves are merely a man changing into a wolf is a complete fabrication. That was never the case.


If we trace the etymology of the term it shows it literally means man-wolf. This is exactly what they are, a hybrid. Nephilim.

The part "person with the power to turn into a wolf” is a much later concept intended to hide the reality of their existence. History is full of reports of cynocephalus people…and many other strange hybrids. I don’t completely trust history either as it’s scattered with lies, deceptions, and fabrications intended to confuse and deceive. Most things people take for granted as factual are pure nonsense.

“Dogman” seems to be a term constructed to hide exactly what they are…who doesn’t love dogs?! The big-shots in that “scene” aren’t trustworthy either. All controlled-opposition in my view.

Agree, We use the term Dogman because people just can't get their head around werewolves and that these creatures actually exist and have no human resemblance whatsoever. Dogmen are werewolves although many Native American tribes do believe they are humans who can transition into half-man/half-wolf (skinwalkers) the Choctaw tribe actually believe they created these "dogmen'' the Nashoba Chito. Skinwalkers IMO are demonic entities, not Nephilim-related. It is also apparent from reports of these werewolf encounters that there is more than one type they don't all look the same.


Australian indigenous folk probably do know about these creatures although there is nothing in their Dreamtime stories and legends to indicate that this is the case and this is the reason I believe that werewolf appearances in Australia are a more recent phenomenon.

[Tiwar]

Easter, while the term is unsuitable and originates via hijacking the Pagan Ēastre/Ostara, is a significant Holiday that has real meaning.

I too have been looking into “dogman” for a few years. They are werewolves; however, the notion that werewolves are merely a man changing into a wolf is a complete fabrication. That was never the case.


If we trace the etymology of the term it shows it literally means man-wolf. This is exactly what they are, a hybrid. Nephilim.

The part "person with the power to turn into a wolf” is a much later concept intended to hide the reality of their existence. History is full of reports of cynocephalus people…and many other strange hybrids. I don’t completely trust history either as it’s scattered with lies, deceptions, and fabrications intended to confuse and deceive. Most things people take for granted as factual are pure nonsense.

“Dogman” seems to be a term constructed to hide exactly what they are…who doesn’t love dogs?! The big-shots in that “scene” aren’t trustworthy either. All controlled-opposition in my view.

Agree, We use the term Dogman because people just can't get their head around werewolves and that these creatures actually exist and have no human resemblance whatsoever. Dogmen are werewolves although many Native American tribes do believe they are humans who can transition into half-man/half-wolf (skinwalkers) the Choctaw tribe actually believe they created these "dogmen'' the Nashoba Chito. Skinwalkers IMO are demonic entities, not Nephilim-related. It is also apparent from reports of these werewolf encounters that there is more than one type they don't all look the same.


Australian indigenous folk probably do know about these creatures although there is nothing in their Dreamtime stories and legends to indicate that this is the case and this is the reason I believe that werewolf appearances in Australia are a more recent phenomenon.

I’ve heard it said that it is a part of their stories (at least in some areas as it’s not a uniform nation wide mythology), they just don’t talk about it. Regardless, they exist.

If those skin walkers truly exist then of course they are demonic in origin. Most things are in my experience. The world is not what I once thought it to be and sadly most people will never get their head around the programming we’ve been indoctrinated with from birth.

The Matrix wasn’t a Movie, it was a documentary in symbol and allegory.

The Fallen ones, the Nephilim (their hybrid offspring) or Demonic entities, it’s all the same in origins and all have the same intent towards humanity. There is no good that can come from association with such things.

So-called “aliens” are demonic entities of some sort. Terminologies change, narratives change, beliefs change, but the entities remain what they’ve always been.

Re Aleister Crowley and the only Demon that ever manifested to him in ritual.



There are no coincidences in my experience, only patterns and programs.

[falke62]

Ok Tiwar, we can all sit in a corner now and fear the demons - or we can do fact based thinking about who the Nephilim can really be. The Bible speaks of fallen angels mating with human women.
I think we agree on that - angels and also demons are spirit beings - so it's impossible for them to mate with humans. That's how they fall away. Aliens could not mate with humans either, since they are most likely genetically too different.

So there is only one closely related species whose genetics are just so far removed from humans that they can produce offspring with humans.The Kwakiutl Indians refer to the Sasquatch as the "ancient tribes" with high spiritual abilities and master shamans. Here, too, there is talk of abduction of women and children and, in individual cases, of mixed marriages.

So it was not homo sapiens, but Sasquatch, the biblical Nephilim, who was probably the first to climb the ladder to becoming a human being, if one considers not the use of tools as typical human, but spirituality.

This spirituality enabled him to survive against his warlike younger brother, Homo sapiens. In this way he could influence his perception and thus make himself invisible to him, or read the intention of an approaching homo sapiens in his mind.
To homo sapiens, his older brother's abilities were frightening and demonic. At some point he no longer wanted to believe that his spiritual master existed. Sasquatches don't exist, at best they're evil werwolfish demons that go unnoticed.

[sensesonfire]

Falke62, I can reply to your comment but I can't do it on The Main Yowie Forum.

[Tiwar]

Falke62, I can reply to your comment but I can't do it on The Main Yowie Forum.

I don’t wish to be rude to the person, but I don’t see any point in replying to the comment as it’s so far behind the reality of what the evidence shows that it would simply be a waste of my time. The majority of people still believe the nonsensical fabrications about the reality and nature of our world and origins &c which they’ve had drummed into their heads as children and it hinders and sabotages every thought and action well before they even start to investigate a subject. Without foundations of actual reality all theories and conclusions are false.

I simply have no desire to entertain such things. Nor do I care to explain my worldview to people living with such a fabricated perspective as it is pointless and achieves nothing.

[sensesonfire]

Falke62, I can reply to your comment but I can't do it on The Main Yowie Forum.

I don’t wish to be rude to the person, but I don’t see any point in replying to the comment as it’s so far behind the reality of what the evidence shows that it would simply be a waste of my time. The majority of people still believe the nonsensical fabrications about the reality and nature of our world and origins &c which they’ve had drummed into their heads as children and it hinders and sabotages every thought and action well before they even start to investigate a subject. Without foundations of actual reality all theories and conclusions are false.

I simply have no desire to entertain such things. Nor do I care to explain my worldview to people living with such a fabricated perspective as it is pointless and achieves nothing.

I agree with your synopsis but I try to reply with a Biblical response hoping that it will provide some clarity to falke62 and his comment.

[sensesonfire]

Ok Tiwar, we can all sit in a corner now and fear the demons - or we can do fact based thinking about who the Nephilim can really be. The Bible speaks of fallen angels mating with human women.
I think we agree on that - angels and also demons are spirit beings - so it's impossible for them to mate with humans. That's how they fall away. Aliens could not mate with humans either, since they are most likely genetically too different.

So there is only one closely related species whose genetics are just so far removed from humans that they can produce offspring with humans.The Kwakiutl Indians refer to the Sasquatch as the "ancient tribes" with high spiritual abilities and master shamans. Here, too, there is talk of abduction of women and children and, in individual cases, of mixed marriages.

So it was not homo sapiens, but Sasquatch, the biblical Nephilim, who was probably the first to climb the ladder to becoming a human being, if one considers not the use of tools as typical human, but spirituality.

This spirituality enabled him to survive against his warlike younger brother, Homo sapiens. In this way he could influence his perception and thus make himself invisible to him, or read the intention of an approaching homo sapiens in his mind.
To homo sapiens, his older brother's abilities were frightening and demonic. At some point he no longer wanted to believe that his spiritual master existed. Sasquatches don't exist, at best they're evil werwolfish demons that go unnoticed.

falke62 I will give my answer to your post to Tiwar but it should probably be on the Yowie Controversial, Conjecture and Fringe Subject Matter Discussion section here it is.

[ Quote]you say I think we agree on that - angels and also demons are spirit beings - so it's impossible for them to mate with humans. That's how they fall away. Aliens could not mate with humans either, since they are most likely genetically too different.[Unquote].

And yet those fallen angels did exactly that ''Aliens" on the other hand are demons masquerading as alien beings from another plane but there is nowhere in the Bible any reference to God creating other intergalactic life forms. The main interest of ''Aliens'' (demons) has been to abduct humans and carry out reproductive experiments on them thus creating alien/hybrid human babies to be released back into society. Many of these alien abductees have been re-abducted and shown their hybrid children.



Genesis 6 tells us that the primary cause of the flood was the emergence of a new, insidious threat to God's plan of redemption. Fallen angels, called "sons of God" (ben Elohim) were taking women, called "daughters of men," for sexual relationships. The result of these unions was a grotesque being scripture called Nephilim. The Nephilim were giants, people who were grossly distorted by their unnatural origins.

So although the details are not provided for us, scripture testifies that demons and women mated in some way to produce a race of creatures called Nephilim.

Satan instigated this plan hoping to pollute the human "seed" to stop God's plan to bring forth a Messiah, the Seed, promised to come one day and destroy (i.e., bruise) Satan:

The Lord punished the demons and destroyed the fruit of their evil labours. Clearly, the act of mating happened, and the demons involved in this sin paid a huge price, but apart from these references, we have little to help us understand how spiritual creatures can mate with physical beings. We do not know specifically how the demons impregnated women, but we do know of other circumstances when angels appear to men in the form of bodies. For example, Abraham is met by three "men" in Genesis 18:

Gen. 18:2 When he lifted up his eyes and looked, behold, three men were standing opposite him; and when he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them and bowed himself to the earth,

Later in the chapter, we observe these men eating with Abraham and speaking with him, yet they were not men. One was the Lord Himself and the other two were angels. So clearly, angels can take the form of men when desired.

The Nephilim continued on after the flood they were murderers, and cannibals and indulged in all types of sexual perversions as is recognised in the lands of Canaan to the point where God ordered Joshua
to destroy all life in these lands men, women, children and animals such was the extent of the corruption.
Now the sons of men (Nephilim) in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therefore to provoke the Lord.

This has been found to be the case with modern-day Bigfoot DNA analysis geneticists discovered the mixing of DNA of one species with another thus creating a chimaera the same with Dogman samples they discovered a mixture of canine genes with those of humans and other creatures. The geneticists were so shocked by this bizarre analysis which is scientifically impossible they refused to release the results because they were scientifically unable to come to a conclusion.

Also, we have in the Extra-Biblical text of Jubilees 7 v 24

And after this, they sinned against the beasts and birds, and all that moves and walks on the earth: and much blood was shed on the earth, and every imagination and desire of men imagined vanity and evil continually. Sinned against the beasts and birds, and all that moves on the earth including the sea means they practised bestiality. And because of their supernatural DNA were able to create all types of monstrous beings that created desolation and despair.

I believe this is the origin of today's cryptids. Cryptozoology is not acknowledged by scientists and academics because it involves a study of a subject they cannot define let alone have any proof.

If you look at Bigfoot it has an uncanny resemblance to Gigantopithecus huge, and hairy but with human-like attributes. Human-like attributes of which were provided by the sons of men the Nephilim through their supernatural DNA and the ape-like appearance of Gigantopithecus.

You say Sasquatches don't exist, at best they're evil werewolfish demons that go unnoticed.
I'll disagree to the point that Sasquatches don't exist because they are very much real but I won't entirely disagree that they are evil werewolfish demons that go unnoticed because I believe these entities may have the ability to transition into other demonic beings.

This is my take on the matter others may disagree but with any disagreeing, I would like an opinion backed up by research.

[falke62]

Dear sensonfire, dear Tiwar,

at first I want to apologize. I never want to insult you. I am interested in an open exchange of oponions, experience and maybe knowledge. I also want to correct, that I believe in sasquatches aka yowies, because of the hundreds of very credible witness reports, the expertise of honorable and credible scientists like Jeff Meldrum an John Bindernagel. In the posting before I only wanted to highlight that public opinion denies the existance of these creatures, because they fear its so called paranormal aspects. Please consider that english is not my native language, so I am not very familiar with the intricacies of the english language. But I am sure with a little goodwill on both sides we can solve such misunderstandings.

Though I studied Biology I am open to spiritual issues, because I know because of a lot of personal paranormal experiences that science of today is far away of reaching the pinnacle of knowledge and very often caught in very stupid mindsets. On the other hand I am very sceptic in your obvious condemnation of sasquatches as demonic creatures, which can cause if sasquatch one day is really acknowledged by public and science that they will wipe him out.
It seems to me that sasquatch is a biologic being like us, but learned through evolution to avoid us in practicing some spiritual tricks, which are not paranormal or evil but part of nature, which science did not yet explore.

And I dont truly believe in dogman, because of lack of biologic evidence. What I heard the first time, that DNA from a dogman was analyzed. Can you tell me more about this?

best regards
falke62

[sensesonfire]

And I dont truly believe in dogman, because of lack of biologic evidence. What I heard the first time, that DNA from a dogman was analyzed. Can you tell me more about this?

Hi falke62, This was The Bigfoot Genome Project http://www.sasquatchgenomeproject.org/s ... ct_003.htm

If you scroll down you will come to this:

Sequence alignments from Amel X BLAST. This one amplicon for Sample 25/26 contained loosely aligning sequences from both dog and human. Therefore, it is an unknown sequence. When looking at the BLAST chart, you will notice that there is a somewhat aligned sequence to the left. That sequence is very loosely aligned with a dog but there are many bases (SNPs) within that sequence that do not align with a dog as seen in the sequence alignments generated by the BLAST (alignments below). Then you will see a gap in the alignment chart which shows a sequence that doesn't align with anything. Then to the right, you will see a sequence that aligns loosely with humans. However, once again there are many bases (SNPs) within that sequence that are not consistent with humans. So the sequence is not human. It is the only way that GenBank can deal with unknown sequences.

This I believe was the Dogman analysis.

Cheers.

[sensesonfire]

falke62 you say you don't believe in Dogman because of lack of evidence.

I have a couple of must-view reports on YouTube in Australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tSabpU9_iY Currumbin Queensland and another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH1T0O_nbAk Watanobbi NSW.

I had another incredible report from Mount George NSW 2014 unfortunately the video was taken down I do get suspicious when videos are removed as to their validity.

This one is from Los Angeles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVuvaGpdTbc Los Angeles

There are literally hundreds of sightings these days coming out of the US many with direct encounters. There are more recent Dogman reports in the US than Bigfoot sightings and Australia is just starting to experience this phenomenon although there may be a lot more people who have had experiences and understandably are reluctant to come forth.

[falke62]

Dear sensonfire,

thank you for these eye witness reports, they sound really very credible. Only the DNA analysis seems to me not from a dogmen, because there is no canine DNA. If such a being is not only a myth but really exists I can understand why you are believing in demons. Indeed there must go on some processes in evolution we dont understand at all.

Have you ever heard from the german Biophycist Fritz Popp and his reseraches on Biophotones? In his researches he tried to show that cells communicate to each other via light, the so called biophotones which contain information. And the human aura is part of this biophotonic information system. Biophotones can not only influence the physiology of an organism, but also the genetics, because DNA can receive and transmit biophotones. He spoke about that the DNA is a biophotonic laser.

And if you combine this knowledge with geomancy, you can imagine that the so called leylines are wires for informations from biophotones and the crossings of this leylines are part of a grid, the places of power, where information can be processed by control loops, with an own intelligence, you can call them „genius loci“. Every genius loci consists of destructive forces constructive forces (birth) and the equilibrium- live. The sum of this local intelligences represents the sowl of our earth, the basis of our ecosystems where all is connected to each other.
Is one local intelligence destroyed (maybe through ritual activities) the equilibrium between constructive and destructive forces goes lost. The destructive forces are not anymore connected to the constructive forces and become independent. This is the origin of a weird destructive higly intelligent power you call demons.
Such demons might be capable to manipulate DNA and produce such beings like dogmen.

Nevertheless the yowie, sasquatch bigfoot seems to me a normal relic hominid, he has all what you expect by an australopithecine: hairy, a not opposable thumb, midtarsal break, protruding mouth, sagittal crest a.s.o
Maybe he triggered with rituals this accident in evolution which caused the dogman.

I hope my english is good enough that you could follow my thoughts.

Best regards

falke 62

[Summer1113]

What an intresting creepy story,
As i was reading some of it it reminded me of an experience i had in the deep rainforest with 3 other people, we were standing together taking a break from the massive hike, when we heard a weird yell/call (not any Australian bush animal we know of’s call), then we heard bipedal running behind us just a few metres away. But nothing was there, once we turned back around we heard it running again. When we looked again nothing was there, we even searched the area, but couldnt see anything. Its so weird like you knew it was there but nothing was there… truly strange, how can something making such an obvious large walking/running sound be not there. Its very creepy knowing somethings there but its not?

[aaq]

What an intresting creepy story,
As i was reading some of it it reminded me of an experience i had in the deep rainforest with 3 other people, we were standing together taking a break from the massive hike, when we heard a weird yell/call (not any Australian bush animal we know of’s call), then we heard bipedal running behind us just a few metres away. But nothing was there, once we turned back around we heard it running again. When we looked again nothing was there, we even searched the area, but couldnt see anything. Its so weird like you knew it was there but nothing was there… truly strange, how can something making such an obvious large walking/running sound be not there. Its very creepy knowing somethings there but its not?

Where was this Summer?

[Summer1113]

What an intresting creepy story,
As i was reading some of it it reminded me of an experience i had in the deep rainforest with 3 other people, we were standing together taking a break from the massive hike, when we heard a weird yell/call (not any Australian bush animal we know of’s call), then we heard bipedal running behind us just a few metres away. But nothing was there, once we turned back around we heard it running again. When we looked again nothing was there, we even searched the area, but couldnt see anything. Its so weird like you knew it was there but nothing was there… truly strange, how can something making such an obvious large walking/running sound be not there. Its very creepy knowing somethings there but its not?

Where was this Summer?

@aaq, it was on our farm that backs onto a large forest in NSW( bulahdelah area). My grandpa had seen a yowie on it, and theres been other things happen.

[Aggy]

What an intresting creepy story,
As i was reading some of it it reminded me of an experience i had in the deep rainforest with 3 other people, we were standing together taking a break from the massive hike, when we heard a weird yell/call (not any Australian bush animal we know of’s call), then we heard bipedal running behind us just a few metres away. But nothing was there, once we turned back around we heard it running again. When we looked again nothing was there, we even searched the area, but couldnt see anything. Its so weird like you knew it was there but nothing was there… truly strange, how can something making such an obvious large walking/running sound be not there. Its very creepy knowing somethings there but its not?

Where was this Summer?

@aaq, it was on our farm that backs onto a large forest in NSW( bulahdelah area). My grandpa had seen a yowie on it, and theres been other things happen.

What other things??

[Summer1113]

Where was this Summer?

@aaq, it was on our farm that backs onto a large forest in NSW( bulahdelah area). My grandpa had seen a yowie on it, and theres been other things happen.

What other things??

My great grandpa years ago was driving his car, at night from one part of the farm to another. It was one of those cars with no windscreen or windows. As he was driving along the thin dirt track he felt something grab his arm, from the slope on one side of the road. he said it felt like a huge hand. He couldn’t see it though since the car didnt have working headlights and he was trying to focus on the road since he couldn’t really see. It all happened fast and it quickly let go as he continued to drive (keep in my its a rough track so you cant go very fast), he didnt see anything but it sure freaked him out he said.

Another example is looking up the mountain on the far side of the property, my dad and his brother noticed a single huge tree being shaken around on the mountain. It’s on our property so no one would be there, plus you would need incredible strength to shake that tree. There is no roads for machines to get up there.

Not on the property but near by me dad was in the bush at night getting rocks to build a rock wall. He was tossing the rocks down the hill so he could load them in his Ute soon. When he heard something big walking towards him from Up the hill. He thought it was a cow at first but then he realised it was walking on two legs like a human. He couldn’t see what it was so he yelled out “oi hello”. There was no answer and it just kept walking towards him a the same pace. He tried shining his torch but couldnt see anything, he got scared and turned it off and yelled out again but nothing answered. He sprinted to his car and left. It’s very rocky and steep there so we ruled out a human since it’s impossible to walk at a steady pace down the bushy hill without a torch or even in general, plus why would someone just be walking around.
My sister got chased in the bush but she was to scared to look back so we dont know if it could’ve been a weird man or a yowie, since it definitely was on two legs she said. She was walking down the bush track and she walked past a large fallen log, it mustve been hiding behind it and something started running after her for like 5-10 seconds then stopped. She kept running and didn’t look back though, so it could’ve been a person so we aren’t to sure about that one.