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Anyone knows why this happens (Warning - large picture)

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I have added my bike into the picture to show some scale.

What could cause saplings like those pictured to snap like that? This area has had no reports of any activity of interest nor has it ever been mentioned as an area that could have any activity.

Therefore ruling out big hairy guys what else could have done this?
1, People
2, Lightening strike
3, Koala ??? - to heavy and made the tree snap?
4, ?????

Do Yowies actually snap trees like that? is it a common occurrence to witness when in a 'hot' spot?

(I previously believed that it could be a way they map out a safe course for them to travel)
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Hey Tommi I work outdoors in Parks and see this type of thing quite alot.

Sometimes its grubs that have eatin the tree which has made it weak and therefore snapped, others it's wind, sometimes you will have tree branches that have fallen and snapped the tree on the way down.
Then others its our friend the Yowie, I will quite often find this sort of thing around human populated areas as well, Its almost like the Yowie is walking along, comes across human development and goes (snap, snap) like its marking its teritory. Thats my therory anyway!
Then, there's just those darn kids that just want to break things for the sake of it :lol:
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I can remember my great-granny telling me that Gypsys used to leave messages for others in th know, passing later, by piling stones or snapping branches and putting them into a special formation. Perhaps, if a yowie is doing this, its a warning for any other yowie/family members following later! :D
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Hi Tommi just curious can you tell me where this is? I dont need you to be exact just state and area if possible. I have seen alot of damage like this also in area's that are definatly not considerd to be hot spots. Thanks Tommi
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I think it's fire damage.

There's about 67 acres of land about 5 minutes walk from me, I see that stuff all the time when walking through there. The whole area has been set on fire many a time.

Just my opinion, cause in the photo, you can see fire damage.
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What is the top speed of that mountain bike?? Or what is the top speed whist being followed by a large hairy creature after you :-P
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That particular tree rots from the inside and breaks exactly as shown in the picture. Not uncommon....

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I agree with Dean on those trees being known for breaks just like that ! I find them where ever that kind of tree is found , and in large numbers ! Now if that tree had been twisted to make the break , I'd be haveing a closer look , or if there were any signs of the tree being torn apart in strips/splinters ! These are not always yowie signs , but they are possable ! Cockatoos can cause this damage to the trees also ! Not the twisting , but the splitered tree breaks ! They can look to have canine marks at regular intervals , and when you see this kind of canine marks/splintering , you should next look to see if there are any kind of sharp little claw marks on the side . Now they can be hard to see sometimes , so you need to look closely . These would be caused due to the bird holding onto the side of the tree . They are rather heavey and have powerful talons . Also I have noticed that with a cockatoo , as it's trying to get a firm hold with it's beak , it will leave slight u shaped marks along the bite area ! These are cause by the lower jaw of the bird . If these signs are not present , WELL . . . you could be onto something !
I always try to find another possable answer , apart from the yowie , as to why a mark , tree break , ect . . . is there ! If I can't think of something else that I know of that makes a similar mark/damage , then I start to look at it as possable Yowie activity !
A bit of knowledge on local & Australian animals is a great help when trying to work out what animal can cause what damage !
Also , after there's been a decent storm with plenty of wind & lightning , it's good to hit the scrub just to see what kind of damage the weather can cause ! Alot of people would be amazed ! BUT , be careful , trees can still be unsafe after storms have passed through !
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Alex, im gonna have to disagree with you here...yes there is fire damage...but to me it looks like the tree in question has hardly been touched...and if the tree WAS damaged by fire I highly doubt that it would have snapped in that place...it would have snapped lower to the ground near the base of the flame because the heat is more intense...and if you take notice...the grass has had time to grow back...so the fire damage would have taken place a while ago...and the tree still looks alive to me...like it was snapped maybe a day-a week ago...probably by some hooligans....lol....but I find it hard to belive that it is from fire damage, the grass has had time to grow back from the fire damage but the tree still looks alive..if it was fire damage the tree should be almost destroyed, especially because it looks so small and fragile...maybe a strong gust of wind? maybe another branch fell on top of it from above but was moved by a ranger to get it off the road? who knows..but I doubt its from fire OR yowie....sorry Alex...no hard feelings bud!
PS. That particular tree has hardly if ANY visible fire damage. and niehter does the Gum behind it...although the tree behind it on the right does...still not enough evidence to prove that the fire came through not long ago due to how quick the grass would have grown back and the fact that the tree is still alive...(green)
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Dean Harrison wrote:That particular tree rots from the inside and breaks exactly as shown in the picture. Not uncommon....

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That & previous fire damage = *creeeeeeeek, snap!*
I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here.
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Thanks for that guys n girls, I started to get a bit suss about this area as previously there has never been any kind of activity I have noticed nor reported.

I'll look into the fire damage a bit more, it would actually make sense as the area had a controlled back burn a few months ago. What alarmed me was a place that had many tree snaps, I'll see if I can take some pics of it next time I'm out there.

The fire damage theory makes sense as the place had a large tree block the main track for a period of time, so who knows :oops:
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i dont believe that fire damage would do that to a tree that long after a fire. Also have you noted that a smaller tree just left next to the road is also snapped at the same angle? you would not get 2 small trees next to each other snapped at the same angle at the same time. Also a tree that small would usually suffer a lot more in a fire a larger one would survive and that fire looks a few months old as well.
What would the chance of a say a large branch falling on both these small trees and snapping at the sam angle when the are about 1.5 metre apart.
Any way just my 2 cents

What would be interesting would be to walk left the way both trees are snapped to see if there is a path of snapped trees if not then this was just chance or bored kids if so something has left a trail
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There is no way that this is from fire damage..yes it looks as though there was a fire there EARLIER..but everything is still green...the grass has grown back, and the tree(s) looked like they were snapped recently because theyre still green...most likely a branch came down from above because the two trees ARE snapped the same way....
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I'll look into the matter further.

That's if anyone cares ? also you guys n girls interested in seeing more pics from the area ... ?
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P.S: I doubt some kids did that, look at the height of the breaking point compared to my seat which is about waste height on me!
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It might not have been kids necessarily...maybe a branch from above, seeing as though both trees are snapped the same way...check if there is a bigger branch lying around next time your up there..chances are its not there anymore but it wont hurt to look...
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Re: Tree branch, no, there isn't any large trees near by nor did I find any evidence that a tree broke near by.

Signs I looked for was more twigs then normal and more leaf matter.... nothing to be seen.

I seriously sat there for about 10mins trying to work out what could of caused it and looked for many signs, comes down to Fire Damage/Kids/Fat Possums/Yowies.

Did I mention there wasn't any foot prints :( I've only ever seen one foot print, and it wasn't even a good one!

Will see what I can uncover on the weekend :shock:

P.S: I saw a nice dark coloured roo! normally I only see the sandy coloured run of the mill roos ... so that was a treat.... maybe he jumped on the trees :P
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Heya Cass

Yeh its most likely a big fat possum, check out these 2 that were on my back fence the other night! I thought someone was trying to climb into my yard so I ran out to confront them and to my suprise I came accross these 2! I made a very quick retreat ... I didn't want to scare them off :oops:

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Good on you Tommi let us know what you find when you look back there.
I have doubts it was another animal as 2 trees both snapped same angle very unlikely(not saying it cant happpen)
It would good tommi to walk in the direction of the snap and around to see if anything else has damage or what evidence is around.
Good luck tommi wish i was with ya

What is so good about being informed is you learn what to look for. A person could walk over a million 4 leaf clovers in there life but once you learn to look you find so many.
A bit like yowie sign isnt it?

Any chance of some experienced yowie hunters making a thread of what to look for and yowie sign for us keen and eager new hunters :-)
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Possums can brake the branches they jump to,LOL! I found out the hard way when I was driving slowly down a dark country track one night when BAMM! A possum and the branch it was holding onto landed on the bonnet of the car. I don't know who was the most scared....probably me, cause the possum had enough energy left to jump off and run away!
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haha, the thing is I don't really want to find out that all of this stuff was caused by a Yowie. The area where I found those trees is my main get away, I go there to relax and get back to nature.

Not to mention exercise on my bike. ... last thing I want on my mind is a Yowie ... I already fear being mugged for my bike!

Maybe if I'm being mugged a Yowie might run out and defend me... chances are next to zero... however I can only hope lol :roll:
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hi everyone i just like to say it common for these things its a yowie marking his territory, yowies are everywhere and if you keep riding around that part alone it will show it self i believe. :D :D :D
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my fingers are crossed for ya tommi :-)

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Hey Tommi,

Nice bike! :D I go MB riding a far bit were you can(can't ride in some NP).

Looks like you ride in a great area. The two broken trees are a bit freaky though!

Cheers,

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Thanks Matty and Bushman

Its a GT 1.0 Disc - 2004 model, goes hard .... Its already put me in hospital and nearly killed me :D
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And we were worried about yowies! LOL!
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If it counts, I had a Fatboy Vegas. Triple wall rims, 3 piece crank, etc. :P
I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here.
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I had a Melvin Star ! Gold in colour , with T-Bar , three speed ,Ape Hangers , Banana seat and Sissy Bar and at one point I even had tassel streemers comming out from the handle bar grips ! If I remember correctly , some big kid teased me about the tassels , so I lost them , chopped the forks and raked her out to about 3 and 1/2 ft , stuck a little wheel on the front ! Man , was she groovy ! He didn't tease me again , but he wanted to ride my bike all the time ! LOL . . . I'd just lay back , drop it into second and I was gone ! CATCH YA !
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Hahaha, a low-rider! Yeah!

I'm buying my fianc? a Schwinn. She loves those old-school looking bikes. :D
I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here.
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I couldn't move my neck for 2 weeks, damaged tendents and squished the top vertabra :oops:

Guess what was the 1st thing I said! "ohhh nooo... go to get the bike to the bike store before they close so they can fix it!"

My g/f decided it might be a better idea to get me to a hospital and see what damaged I did.

Doc said I would of been dead / in a wheel chair if I didn't have my helmet on.

Oh, if your wondering how I did that.... I was riding ontop of a log and I slipped off and went head 1st into a tree. :D
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