LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING....MODUS OPERANDI

[paulmcleod67]

For those that don't understand why I'm looking for Yowies (Sasquatch) in relatively populated area's,
(I get abuse from trolls world wide for doing it) let me explain.

People go missing in strange , unexplained circumstances doing everyday activities.

People have vanished in country area's walking their dogs, going for short bush hikes, taking regular exercise along routes they had used for years.
There are even cases of people returning home from work, (having been seen by neighbors )whom have vanished taking out their garbage, keys and wallets left at home, found where they would normally be placed after a work day.

People of all ages and nationalities, of all trades all up and down the eastern seaboard of Australia (and nationwide Im sure) go missing on weekdays and weekends simply going for drives to visiting isolated tourist spots.

The cases I have investigated have no rhyme or reason as to why these people disappeared.
Their cars have been found with no suspicious prints or damage on them.
Mountain bikes found belonging to missing people, that had no damage and located exactly where the victim told loved ones they were going for a ride.

In some cases bodies are found mangled or in skeletal form years later in areas frequently used by weekend hikers, campers and fishermen. In many cases people are found dead suffering from dehydration but having died of heart failure, in some cases their dogs are found dead near bye.

In all cases the Coroner does not release his findings and police will not divulge case details and have said that no suspicious circumstances were involved.
Missing mothers,fathers, children and even grandparents all vanish with no trace and no motivational factors.

I'm not trying to prove Yowies exist, I've seen them, I'm trying to understand if they are involved in these disappearances
because NOBODY ELSE is even willing to look at the possibility.

FACT: Most modern Yowie sightings accour near roads leading into and away from townships adjoining wilderness areas.

FACT: In Australia, more than 38,000 people are reported missing each year.
While most people are found within a short period of time, there remain approximately
1,600 long term missing persons; those who have been missing for more than three months.

This equates to approximately one person every 15 minutes.

The rate of missing persons in Australia is 1.7 per 1,000 people.

Australian population at 30 June 2016 was 24,127,200 people.

YOU DO THE MATH.

[DaveR]

FACT: Most modern Yowie sightings accour near roads leading into and away from townships adjoining wilderness areas.

Yes that does seem to be the case. Personally I think they are anywhere with the right habitat. The fact that not many people go to remote areas would explain the lack of reports from within dense bushland. I am currently investigating the report from Tharwa in the ACT in January that Dean mentioned in another thread. The road in question travels through the Namadgi National Park meeting up eventually with Adaminaby. Saying that the sighting was in a populated area is incorrect. Tharwa is the nearest town although sightings have been reported in the village in years gone past. The area of this particular roadway sighting, is surrounded dense bushland stretching to the west for over 100 km. my theory is where the bush meets roads would be the logical place for sightings in a possibly expanding or roaming population.

As for missing persons you could well be on the money. I have had an experience with another researcher of being pushed out of an area at a place called Smokers Trail. we were frightened out of the bush by two heavy bipedal noise makers who after pushing over a tree marched parallel to the track on either side flanking us. We respectfully left. The same area had a group of outward bound people approached in camp which left the girls who saw it shaken. Dean himself can testify to their Aggression. The same mountains near Corin Dam a bush runner went missing some years ago and after an extensive search all they ever found was a jumper. The area can be inaccessible if it snows and gates are locked. Tim Yowie Man told me of himself and A ranger finding a long track-way in the snow in an area where people are locked out ten miles away. So they are there all year. Are they all aggressive? I don't know. But I suspect there would be a range of personalities in a species so smart. I have 1000 square km's of wilderness National Park as my backyard. Many places probably haven't seen a human foot unless they were winched in by helicopter I suspect. Anything could literally live there. If you go in alone you take many personal risks. It would not surprise me if the Yowie is one of them. Watching your research with interest Paul.

[paulmcleod67]

I'm seeing a migration pattern in all the gathered sighting data.
Possibly an inherited migration pattern following weather conditions,migratory birds and seasonally fruiting bush tucker and water supply.

Another thought is how did the original population of Aboriginals from Papua New Guinea 60,000 years ago learn to survive in Australia initially?

Is it possible they copied Yowie behavior when the species was more widespread alongside megafauna?

Tiviat Creek is producing answers in that area I feel.

Cheers mate

[Yowie bait]

I too agree they are coming closer to suburbia although i cant prove it. Just a theory of course.

Their habitat closer to the cities is dissapearing fast due to usually unwanted shopping centres and housing developments etc etc..

If they are taking people then its the fault of those greedy developers and their politician mates who should be informing the public on such matters.


Maybe these reporters can fill in the public and expose these hairy men once and for all..if they dont mind losing their jobs that is!

[Yowie88]

Maybe its time to exercise caution when bush walking; more so now with data showing a strong correlation between missing persons and yowie sightings. Maybe take precautions such as never go alone, have the right gear with you such as communications, water, food and other bush survival staff with you.

If bears in the US have been know to stray into the city fringes for food, then it logically follows that our hairy friend my also do the same in search for food.

[Wolf]

And carry a can of pepper spray and the brightest led torch you can get if walking at night.

[Simon M]

Paul's research is detailed and interesting.

I think the approach he's taken is intelligent and pragmatic. It's definitely the case that sightings near roads seem numerous and are well represented in the AYR audio reports.

It's also the case that, anecdotally, these creatures can be hostile. The indigenous legends I've read involving them often describe them as being a threat (to say the least).

http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplai ... ple-003605

That link contains a sort of 'potted history' of Yahoo/Yowie lore. It also mentions the idea that the earliest humans to arrive in this country learned how to survive here from watching the example set by the Yowies.

I admit to having zero field experience and limited bush knowledge. I did grow up fishing, hunting and camping with my Dad, Grandad and Brother - and despite being the nerd of the family I was still exposed to a fair bit of the wilderness as a kid and learned to have respect for how easy it is to wind up lost (or worse) if you're careless or take risks. I've never seen anything more threatening than the odd feral pig and some snakes, so the idea of seeing a Yowie really doesn't appeal to me. I'm pretty sure I'd c**p my dacks if I saw one, but I would like to see their presence proven 'officially' if only to see the smug bastards who sneer at anyone who discusses the topic put in their place.

The only way to do that is for people to go out and physically do this investigative work. I'm impressed by anyone who does it, as it plainly takes a lot of work, time and cash. I just think that, if there's even a possibility that Yowies are responsible for people being killed, there needs to be more public knowledge about it. The only way to make people aware of the issue is to show them that the issue is real.

[Yowie88]

Hey Wolf, I found a websidte called Wolf Eyes lol, check out the torches they have.

https://wolfeyes.com.au/LED-torches-fla ... g-torches/

And ditto to any researcher who has the time, money and the guts to carryout field work.

[ChrisV]

Agreed Paul.
Your statements and direction of research is warranted and there must be connections between missing people and unknown aspects. Remember people in Australia do not believe there is an apex predatory above humans...so it can't be so according to current beliefs.

The percentage of missing people due to apex predator attacks I imagine would be in the lesser % of missing folks reports. After reading and listening to many of David Paulides 411 reports, you'd be ignorant to dismiss the connections. He makes a fascinating case that leaves no doubt something is amiss in these reports.

Taking into account all the hard work you have done with the Australian version of these reports, your going to come across people who are going to reject your theories and ridicule. I think if your committed to this research your going to have to flick these attacks off and focus on the main prize and that is getting to the truth - or as close as you can.

With cases like the William Tyrell situation you will need to even be more sensitive. People are very sensitive about this case for obvious reasons and if you run a comment about this and publish something - be prepared for some backlash. Its unfortunate but cases like this people don't want to hear that undiscovered mythical beast took an innocent boy. From outside the group that is a crazy theory - but for people on this forum and overseas this could be a possibility of sorts... I won't say anything else on the matter.

Paul - keep up the good work. Its fascinating reading and there is a lot of interesting aspects that make people think.
Just be prepared also that not everyone agrees with your views....for now anyway. I for one do follow your research and support your work.

[AgeV]

Keep on keeping on Paul!!!!

[Scarts]

This is sensationalism.

There are 1,600 long-term missing persons Australia Wide dating back to the mid 1960's and possibly older. Over the last 50 years, that works out to be about 32 people a year, Australia Wide, or 3 to 4 people per state. Of those, a higher proportion is from urban areas as opposed to rural areas.

You do the maths!

[paulmcleod67]

Agreed Paul.
Your statements and direction of research is warranted and there must be connections between missing people and unknown aspects. Remember people in Australia do not believe there is an apex predatory above humans...so it can't be so according to current beliefs.

The percentage of missing people due to apex predator attacks I imagine would be in the lesser % of missing folks reports. After reading and listening to many of David Paulides 411 reports, you'd be ignorant to dismiss the connections. He makes a fascinating case that leaves no doubt something is amiss in these reports.

Taking into account all the hard work you have done with the Australian version of these reports, your going to come across people who are going to reject your theories and ridicule. I think if your committed to this research your going to have to flick these attacks off and focus on the main prize and that is getting to the truth - or as close as you can.

With cases like the William Tyrell situation you will need to even be more sensitive. People are very sensitive about this case for obvious reasons and if you run a comment about this and publish something - be prepared for some backlash. Its unfortunate but cases like this people don't want to hear that undiscovered mythical beast took an innocent boy. From outside the group that is a crazy theory - but for people on this forum and overseas this could be a possibility of sorts... I won't say anything else on the matter.

Paul - keep up the good work. Its fascinating reading and there is a lot of interesting aspects that make people think.
Just be prepared also that not everyone agrees with your views....for now anyway. I for one do follow your research and support your work.

Cheers mate.

Re Palides work, his work in the Bigfoot arena "Tribal Bigfoot" he is on record admitting to abductions by the creature and indeed for sensativity reasons he backed right out of those conclusions for the 411 series. Ill post his video relaying these comments on my chanel when I get home to my digital archive....its most interesting.

Cheers

[paulmcleod67]

Andesite tourist monolith toppled at Mount Nebo Queensland

https://youtu.be/Hd_OVIBsBM8

Beginning a series of video's detailing anomalies in tourist sites where people HAVE gone missing in Queensland.

This one is a one ton Andersite geological information monolith that's been ripped out of the ground from it's central position
within a ring of similar boulders at Jolly's lookout at Mount Nebo, Queensland Australia.

An interesting fact is that certain granite's, including Andesite, have peculiar magnetic properties.

Blend this with the theory that Sasquatch has been reported to use rock piling for navigational purposes gives the speculative
idea that maybe....just maybe this site (and only the Andersite's) were pulled out of the ground because of navigational
frustration? (It's a leap I know).

Why would the park's dept not repair this site if it was shifted for construction reasons?

I don't think it's been reported?

Suporting Yowie report...

http://www.gcbro.com/AUSbrisquen0001.htm

DATE: 07/1979

TIME: Approximately 9:00 PM

LOCATION: Australia, Brisbane Queensland, Mt. Nebo Road, Upper Enogerra Creek

OBSERVED: Myself and a friend were standing in front of our campfire, when all of a sudden there were two extremely
loud screaming yells from the bush about ten meters away. The screams came from the other side of the creek were
we had our camp.

These screaming yells are hard to describe, they were very high pitched and lasted about four or five seconds each,
i remember two distinct screams.

If i could describe the sound the screams made it would be "yaaaawaaaaa, yaaaawaaaa."

The thing that got me scared, was how loud they were, you could hear them echo of the hills.

I have tried to recreate the sound with my own voice, but found it
impossible. The screams were the only sounds we heard, and we didn't see anything.

Activities of Witness: We were camping, and had already spent one night at the location.
The area were we
camped is a two hour hike from the nearest main road, and in a water catchment area which is closed to public access.

We were illegally camped by the creek. I would also like to add that we were not under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

[paulmcleod67]

Only because I have been asked about the Harold Holt book.


https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-Ha ... 1482592487




Cheers

[paulmcleod67]

Here is a link to the start of David Palides Tribal Bigfoot talk.


Watch as many episodes as you can and note his comments on historical kidnapping by Sasquatch.

It's entirely relevant to his 411 work in my opinion.

https://youtu.be/ocw2X0gMXds

[paulmcleod67]

Many more uniform "twist and snap" tree breaks in an aboriginal cultural reserve River road Riverview Queensland.

Video up tomorrow after processing .

The damage does't really show in still frames, the video is pretty obviously the work of a Yowie.

Cheers

[paulmcleod67]

That was really bad diction sorry......

[Yowie bait]

Only because I have been asked about the Harold Holt book.


https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-Ha ... 1482592487




Cheers

Hmmm maybe Harold Holt was abducted by a yowie as well. Come to think of it, i have seen one on a beach before...
Make sure you mention William when your on channel 10 Paul. Im sure it will be much appreciated by his freinds and family.

Enjoy your 15 minutes mate.

[gregvalentine]

Many more uniform "twist and snap" tree breaks in an aboriginal cultural reserve River road Riverview Queensland.

Video up tomorrow after processing .

The damage does't really show in still frames, the video is pretty obviously the work of a Yowie.

Cheers

Those Damn Dirty (and Cunning) Apes now have access to our human technology!

[Wolf]

Many more uniform "twist and snap" tree breaks in an aboriginal cultural reserve River road Riverview Queensland.

Video up tomorrow after processing .

The damage does't really show in still frames, the video is pretty obviously the work of a Yowie.

Cheers

Playing Devil's Advocate...

Perhaps they are all broken in the same direction as a result of the wild wind storms we had in Qld late last year?
Any close-ups of the 'twists'?

[paulmcleod67]

Only because I have been asked about the Harold Holt book.


https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-Ha ... 1482592487




Cheers

Hmmm maybe Harold Holt was abducted by a yowie as well. Come to think of it, i have seen one on a beach before...
Make sure you mention William when your on channel 10 Paul. Im sure it will be much appreciated by his freinds and family.

Enjoy your 15 minutes mate.

Ill be posting a link to one more video and then I'm done here.

I don't have time for this anymore.
Let me just point out that I never went to the media and I havn't responded to approaches by
Kristina Costalos of TEN NEWS, other than to give her my e-mail addy if she had questions.
Anyone that thinks I'm playing a fame game has got it all wrong.
I post here because it's supposed to be a comunity of like minded people interested in the Yowie phenom.
It appears its just another unmoderated forum full of couch potato trolls, happy to play tall poppy and take
pot shots at anything that does not meet their view of the world.
If what I do offends people , Im not sorry. I just do the reasearch and post what I find.
The topic is never going to get out of the social quagmire without actual research results.
I wish you all the best of luck.
Dean you have done an amazing job on this topic and thankyou for providing the public
a method of venting their experiences, you have my eternal gratitude and respect.
It's time for me to move on.
Anyone wishing to follow my work is welcome to e-mail me at

[email protected]
Cheers
Paul John McLeod
Feb 2017

[Yowie bait]

Paul the only problem i have is the William thing which in my opinion should have been deleted but its Deans site and he can decide on what stays and goes.

You are obviously very passionate and dedicated to your cause. I also think your signage idea is a great. Please don't judge the forum from my smartass post. Just frustration due to the whole William theory. I wish you the best in your research.

[paulmcleod67]

Here's a link to the video noted above.

This will be my final post on this forum.

Thanks to everyone that supported what I was attempting.

Best of luck to everyone in your endevours.

Cheers

https://youtu.be/JI7Rvs8THL0

[Wolf]

Only because I have been asked about the Harold Holt book.


https://www.amazon.com/Assassination-Ha ... 1482592487




Cheers

Hmmm maybe Harold Holt was abducted by a yowie as well. Come to think of it, i have seen one on a beach before...
Make sure you mention William when your on channel 10 Paul. Im sure it will be much appreciated by his freinds and family.

Enjoy your 15 minutes mate.

Ill be posting a link to one more video and then I'm done here.

I don't have time for this anymore.
Let me just point out that I never went to the media and I havn't responded to approaches by
Kristina Costalos of TEN NEWS, other than to give her my e-mail addy if she had questions.
Anyone that thinks I'm playing a fame game has got it all wrong.
I post here because it's supposed to be a comunity of like minded people interested in the Yowie phenom.
It appears its just another unmoderated forum full of couch potato trolls, happy to play tall poppy and take
pot shots at anything that does not meet their view of the world.
If what I do offends people , Im not sorry. I just do the reasearch and post what I find.
The topic is never going to get out of the social quagmire without actual research results.
I wish you all the best of luck.
Dean you have done an amazing job on this topic and thankyou for providing the public
a method of venting their experiences, you have my eternal gratitude and respect.
It's time for me to move on.
Anyone wishing to follow my work is welcome to e-mail me at

[email protected]
Cheers
Paul John McLeod
Feb 2017

It IS a community of 'sometimes-like-minded' people... in the form of a forum, which by definition allows each individual to be there for their own reasons and agendas. And all have the right, indeed freedom, to speak forth their minds at will, regardless of agreement or non-agreement on any issue.

If we can't handle/accept a strangers opinions or thoughts on a subject we probably should not be voicing our own for no matter how much you may disagree on a point, each man's thoughts are his own and equal to any others, including ourselves.

Taking offence at another man's words is not only needless, it shows a lack of faith in oneself.
Remember, the world is one vast loony bin and would we take offence at one of the loonies screaming at us from their padded cell in a 'real' asylum?
Of course not... so why take offence in the world-wide asylum?

[Simon M]

That's a good point, Wolf, and well made.

I think we're all interested in Paul's work, which is detailed and well documented. Misunderstandings happen, unfortunately, but I reckon we'll all be following his work regardless of whether or not he chooses to post here.

[Yowie bait]

Just to clear things up a bit. There were other posts reprimanding Paul that night that have been deleted and i doubt very much it was my post alone that has made Paul leave. It was just the only one not deleted by admin.

Paul should know i have been a supporter of his in the past and i made that comment due to frustration from what i feel is the unnecessary exploitation of the William case which in my opinion spoils all the obvious hard work Paul has done.

Even then his is just a theory like any other with no hard facts.

[Scarts]

Wolf, I'm not sure if I follow? Does everyone have a right of say, or nobody should openly disagree or be offended? This forum should be visited with the same mindset you'd have if visiting a mental asylum???????

How about, if you're out of line, someone will say something or challenge your ideas?

[Simon M]

Yeah, there were more posts originally, I think Wolf's right.

I don't think anyone's suggesting we cannot ask questions - that's the essence of what this place is about, after all. This is probably the most open minded, drama free forum I've ever seen.

I do think that Scarts has a point about the possible ramifications for AYR if Paul's theory regarding the missing lad were to reach the wider public - and it's a point that Wolf also made, and so did Greg and so did Paul himself.

I doubt very much the mainstream media would even know about this particular corner of the internet, or care about it even if they knew it existed.

I do agree that the potential exists for these creatures to do harm to people, even kill them, but with regard to that specific case it's all speculation just as Wolf pointed out. There's no evidence that we know of to support it.

[Simon M]

Sorry, as YB pointed out.

Man, this heat is killing me. My brain won't work properly.

[Wolf]

Wolf, I'm not sure if I follow? Does everyone have a right of say, or nobody should openly disagree or be offended? This forum should be visited with the same mindset you'd have if visiting a mental asylum???????

How about, if you're out of line, someone will say something or challenge your ideas?

Everyone has the freedom, indeed right, to voice their own thoughts.
My point is taking offence to another's thoughts is ridiculous and a sign of an immature ego.
It is the equivalent of taking offence at the rankings of a nutter living inside the walls of a building labelled as a 'Psychiatry Hospital'... for we are all products of our own environments and mental attitudes, each and every one of us.
Being offended by another's words indicates our lack of self awareness for how can we truly know another's mind to judge them, especially when communicated via text on a, for-all-intents-and-purposes, anonymous Internet forum.
If someone intends to offend, that is their problem, not ours. Thier individual psychological issue, not ours.
It only becomes ours if we allow it to by letting our egos to get involved.

If someone challenges my ideas or takes offence at something I have said, that is thier right and I will always try to hear what they have to say objectively, as if observing the interaction from without. If I disagree, that too is my right and I may attempt to elucidate the issue in the hope of reaching an understanding or compromise, but I will never 'take offence' and allow it to damage my own psych/ego for after all, it is only words.
A gentleman rises above such things for he recognises the ancient adage of 'sticks and stones'.