The Creator of yowies : Annanuki?

Unread post by **horserider** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:40 pm

wow yowiemrx some awesome pics you have there

Glad this is turning out to be an interesting thread for many

Mrx if you do find that / or a link between the link please share it so we can investigate more

Unread post by **Jo Blose** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:07 am

The Qu'ran covers yowies. Check out the "Jinn'".

Unread post by **juic3d** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:13 am

This is such a great thread and i would like to add that crypto sites are so much better than car forums were here veiws are backed with evidence and links were on car forums with the keyboard warriors just go strait for a personal attack.

Mrx i know there are no referances to the creation of yowies/bigfoot in the Sumerian texts only of human but i still think there is potential here.There is also no referance to

because i doubt a newly formed human race would be as worldly educated as humans are today with the ability to access almost limitless information at your fingertips with the www thus why i feel that

were misinterperated as "gods".

Joe Black i had a look at the wikipedia page regarding "Jinn" and was suprised there is no mention of it in the original Hebrew bible but there is several referances to it in translations to arabic. What the?? Its not in the original text but is mentioned several times in the translation to Arabic. What the ?? The other thing i found interesting was under the "Jinn in islam" subtitle were it mentions that Jinn are usually invisible to humans and vice versa which reminds me of the lack of concrete undisputed photographic evidence and a limited human visable light spectrum.Any link there mmmm maybe

good stuff ,far to much info for my very tired brain to fully take in

Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:20 am

Hi joe

Yes there is Jinn's in the Quran.But the Quran is not a very old book.About 13th century in westen time.

But I did find this.Australian aboriginal have rock art of UFO.The Aboriginal painted as they seen it.eg have a look at there tall ships in rock art.

So there might be ,and thats a big might .Be something in this.

Hi juic3d

I think a lot of things have been misinterperated as gods.

I think a lot of gods at the time look like hybrid of known animals.
So there might be ,and thats a big might .Be something in this.

Unread post by **horserider** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:18 am

The Jinn in the Qu'ran is not the Yowie or related to the Yowie. I know people who have experienced the Jinn.
I have had alot of experiences around certain things so allow me to explain what experiences & what I know.
Here’s my 2cents worth lol . . (oh & for the record myself & the great man Im about to speak of have Christian backgrounds, Im not very religious. More spiritual.)

Ive been in Arab countries for lengthy visits, I had some Muslim friends at school, &, I knew a great well respected man who past away in 1988, who studied religions deeply, he was like us searching for answers, & got access to all the Muslim Qu’rans, old & new which one particular book is so bad that even the modern muslims of today can not readily get there hands on it...
Some members have it & the teachings are still being passed down through the majority of Muslims, it talks of rape & murder of Christians being a path to heaven (sick). I say majority of Muslims to be fair because not all of them are the same... There are different divisions in the Muslim community which started after Muhammeds death. Shias, Kharijites, Sunnis are the magor groups. The teachings for the groups are different, some are old, some are new, some are really bad, some are okay.. this is why you will often meet some muslims that are really backwards in their thinking & sometimes meet some that appear to be just normal like you & me.
The Qu’ran has changed over the years to suit themselves to massively brainwash Muslims & take over the world (ie why one of the reasons the religions teachings is to have many kids ie to overpopulate the world).
Do not use this book for reference & best you stay away from this book or any of the Muslim teachings.. the books apparently designed to lure you in & play mind tricks etc hence why the majority of them are so brainwashed.

All these groups know the Jinn, & all describe it as the same thing,
The Jinn is another word for Devil or evil spirits...
(By the way it is apparently bad to even say the word Jinn because its like you are calling/inviting the devil...)
The Jinn is known to be the trickster that leads to sins, much like the devil. Sins such as not wearing your scarf etc, apparently also if someone knocks on a womens door & she answers it , it could be the Jinn.. sins such as not praying 5 times a day, sins such as desiring a man etc.
NOW.. has anyone ever known anyone who has ever experienced when they were sleeping, a pressure weight on their chest and wake up choking to see a black figure/shadow on top of them? Well the Muslims explanation for this is that they aren’t being religious enough in there ways & so they have allowed for the Jinn to come take over their bodys..

The Jinn is not the Yowie in their books. Its an evil spirit. I do not discount the Jinn for being exhistant either, the reason I say this is because I once was friends with a Mauritian girl who was dating a bad muslim guy (in the end I convinced her to leave him thank goodness because he was involved in some bad stuff)
Anyway she had never heard of the Jinn, yet when she was going through the break up stage with the ex boyfriend she had the experience I just described.. she told be it was like the figure of a man but in the darkness of her bedroom it was just a shadow, than it suddenly disappears.. she never made mention of hair, or large figure, or bad smell, just a man/figure leaning on her chest trying to take the life out of her..
Same description as a girl from school told me, but she was muslim.
The Mauritian girl knew nothing of the Jinn so could not have imagined it up.
I also believe they do Katiba’s (a spell they place on people), & some bad Shiekes will actually prey to the Jinn to place the spell.. & have been in rooms where a Shieke was pretending to prey for someone but was actually placing one on her & he asked the girl if he looked evil when he walked in. Inetresting

Sorry that was $10.00 worth not 2cents bahahaa but you's can keep the change tee hee
So no the yowie & Jinn are NOT related

Unread post by **deadpool** » Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:19 pm

Hey guys & gals.. been a long time, eh?

Okay, so from what I've read so far.. the yowie/bigfoot could be some kind of Lovecraftian (Sumerian reference there) offspring that's here to guide and help us, but also scare the bejeesus out of us on occasion?

This reminds me of, well, a H.P Lovecraft story.. "The Lurking Fear". It has everything this thread already has.. alternate dimensions, shadows in the night, glowing eyes & hairy beasts. But, the hairy beats turn out to be a devolutioned form of.. well, you'll have to read the story, won't you?

To cut it short, I'm still 60:40 on this whole thing. 60: flesh & blood, whether it be devolved homo sapiens/neanderthals.. and 40: is leaning more towards something akin to what's in "Hunt For The Skin Walker".. alternate dimensions/portals into the unknown, etc.

If it seems like I'm taking the piss, I assure you I'm not - since I last posted I've seen things that, well, have changed my entire outlook of pretty much the world itself - but at the end of the day, I'm goin' with F&B as the primary.

Unread post by **Jo Blose** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:55 am

I wholeheartedly disagree Horserider.

The Jinn or Djinn concept covers a range of "weird" topics including the alien belief. Check out this site:

http://www.thejinn.net/

Unread post by **Dion** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:49 pm

Good site Joe

I tend to agree with a lot of the stuff in it

Website · Unread post by **SAB 8** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:25 pm

Jinn masquerading as ETs. I don`t buy it.

I think because the technology used by these beings is so advanced it is easier for some people to prescribe to this theory. It reminds me of when ancient cultures in New Guinea or the Amazon have encounter modern man and perceived them to be gods or something supernatural as our technology and/or appearance appeared magical/supernatural to these cultures.

The whole Jinn concept seems to me to be more associated with what spiritualists know as Earth Spirits, or elementals and devas, which to my understanding seem to be a seperate category of general origin than that of ETIs.

Unread post by **Dion** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:03 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jinn

Jinn (Arabic: جن‎ ǧinn, singular جني ǧinnī ; variant spelling djinn) or genies are supernatural creatures in Arab folklore and Islamic teachings that occupy a parallel world to that of mankind. Together, jinn, humans and angels make up the three sentient creations of Allah.

I agree that Jinn’s are different to ET’s, and that they are more associated with elemental spirits, but cannot be certain of this, when push comes to shove do we really know???

Jinn’s are known to be supernatural beings from a parallel world, another dimension??? I do believe that what we perceive as ET’s "could"??? fall under this hypothesis.

Unread post by **horserider** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:06 pm

heya Joe

Yeah i know what you are saying i understand completely

But the Jinn is said to be able to take the form of other animals, people etc which is why i was saying that muslim ladies have been told if you hear someone knocking at your door, dont open the door because it could be the Jinn in disguise of human

I definately will not discount that they could take form of yowie, i respect that totally Joe, i do believe they could do that, it may even be happening frequently? I didnt think of anything like this till you mentioned it so i totally respect your idea

But what i am saying is that the yowie are not the Jinn... the Jinn can take their form, take over their bodys , but the Jinn & yowie is not the same thing....

Having said that Ill now read the link you sent... i wanted to explain what i meant before i read your link so that im not persuaded until i explained what i meant... cause there may be credible stuff in it!

.. so now you know what i meant ill read the link... im very very open to ideas, so will keep my open mind on when i read it than let you know what i think

Look forward to the read & again not arguing anything Im just going off my past experiences but experience isnt everything as we all know as there are many experiences we havnt experienced that others have

ok so as arnie said "ill be buck" tee hee

Unread post by **Jo Blose** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:07 pm

Horserider, it's ok to argue. In order to make an omelette you have to break some eggs and it can get messy!

This thread in particular is a pot pouri of hypotheticals where I could say Santa Claus is the true father of the Yowie and it wouldn't be out of place! The Jinn connection with yowies is not my idea, but it is a connection made by others. In that link, it also links in the shadow people phenomena under the same umbrella!

Unread post by **horserider** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:18 pm

Hey I even disagree with myself ALL the time when my minds going fall steam during an analysis

(And i guess at least i can laugh about it tee hee)

So please dont anyone ever get offended, like Joe says "In order to make an omelette you have to break some eggs!

And yes i did see that regarding the shadow people too, wow

I do like the idea after having a look through that link...

There could be a relative link between the two.. you have a good point, the Jinn could take the form of a yowie indeed, they are said to be tricksters so that would make it very possible!!!

Im going to get some more info soon on this, I just lined up 2 ladies to question who should know alot on the said Jinn.
One has recently believed she had the Jinn inside of her so I will be making that my priority.
Both have a lot of knowledge they have brought directly from Shiekes so lets see how we go..

Ill ask them for permission off course to discuss on here & insure i keep them anonymous

Unread post by **Jo Blose** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:53 pm

From that link I provided, the author of that site has this to say:

Since the Jinn effectively erase their artifacts and themselves from human understanding, proponents and contactees are usually left holding a whole lot of nothing. They risk (and often lose) their reputations, marriages and careers. Many have expended enormous time, money, and energy only to conclude that they and have perhaps wasted part or their lives. So it appears to be either a scary or foolish thing to devote oneself to the study of the UFO phenomenon and to telling people about the Jinn. So I ask myself -- why do I bother?

I keep at it because I love mysteries and enjoy search activities. I recognize the existence of unseen worlds because I've seen too much of them to deny it. But mostly because KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. Interaction with these guys can be terrifying, crazy making, and dangerous because you're fooled by them. Once you know about the Jinn, you're not so likely to be a victim, worshiper or fool.

What I like about this quote, is regardless of whether the Jinn concept has any reality or is a flight of fancy, there are a number of truths, particularly the one I have highlighted in red. The importance of that quote should not be underestimated as a warning for anybody pursuing this field as a pastime, hobby, or as general interest.

Unread post by **horserider** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:10 am

Well thats interesting Joe that this reply follows after speaking to my first lady who says, "i dont know, i still dont know"
Than said she is going to ask someone else who has more knowledge on it????

What the, how odd
???????????
Okay so i'll see what the next lady says & the friend this lady asks, bizarre
I shall keep in mind what you're saying

Which key button will display upside down question marks for questions that have no answers tee heee

Website · Unread post by **SAB 8** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:39 pm

Dion: I agree that Jinn’s are different to ET’s, and that they are more associated with elemental spirits, but cannot be certain of this, when push comes to shove do we really know???

No we don`t. Likewise do we know that they are even real..... there is more evidence presented for the existence of ETs and yowies.... Jinn being responsible for this phenomena is a possibility, but it would probably come in at the bottom of my list of probabilities.....

Dion: Jinn’s are known to be supernatural beings from a parallel world, another dimension??? I do believe that what we perceive as ET’s "could"??? fall under this hypothesis.

I tend to agree with you there. Many so-called ET species may very well be extra-dimensional in nature. It is also possible that many ET species have reached an advanced technology state that allows them to interact and utilise other dimensional levels of existence.... They themselves however, may exist in realities more akin to our own. Much in the same manner that we interact with other environments like deep underwater and outer space.... these are not our home environments and it is primarily only through our technological advancements that allows us to interact and manifest within these environments.

Since the Jinn effectively erase their artifacts and themselves from human understanding, proponents and contactees are usually left holding a whole lot of nothing. They risk (and often lose) their reputations, marriages and careers. Many have expended enormous time, money, and energy only to conclude that they and have perhaps wasted part or their lives. So it appears to be either a scary or foolish thing to devote oneself to the study of the UFO phenomenon and to telling people about the Jinn. So I ask myself -- why do I bother?

I keep at it because I love mysteries and enjoy search activities. I recognize the existence of unseen worlds because I've seen too much of them to deny it. But mostly because KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. Interaction with these guys can be terrifying, crazy making, and dangerous because you're fooled by them. Once you know about the Jinn, you're not so likely to be a victim, worshiper or fool.

There are sacrifices in studying these types of subjects no doubt about it, but that is consistent with the many breaththroughs which have occurred throughout human history. New knowledge, theories, technology has ALWAYS been met with resistance. Look at many of our great scientist - they often had turbulent careers met with resistance at every turn, often going unrecognised in their own lifetime only to be acknowledged in full by future generations. The great social advancements made by our species, for example the civil rights movement, A HUGE EFFORT, MUCH PAIN AND GREAT RESISTANCE, but in the pages of history it was well worth the effort . The study and pursuit of the paranormal is just a current reflection of this tendency of our species. Maybe, in a future point in our history the study of these fields will be vindicated. When that will occur is another question? Maybe our lifetime, maybe not?

Joe Black: What I like about this quote, is regardless of whether the Jinn concept has any reality or is a flight of fancy, there are a number of truths, particularly the one I have highlighted in red. The importance of that quote should not be underestimated as a warning for anybody pursuing this field as a pastime, hobby, or as general interest.

Not a fan of this author though Joe.... the unquestioning, self-assurance in the existence of the Jinn, a subject often considered intangible even within paranormal circles sets my alarm bells ringing.... Anyone professing to HAVE the answers without question (as this individual seems to think) should be taken with caution. I think that UFOs and yowies are real, but I base that belief on a huge body of work made by countless researchers of those associated fields over numerous decades.... In saying that I am still open to contrainidicating material especially on a case by case analysis. I am yet to see the same in-depth level of research and collective body of work to support the existence of the Jinn in comparison to fields like UFOlogy. I am not saying that the Jinn don`t exist, just questioning how the author can be so sure in their belief/s???

Unread post by **horserider** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:40 pm

okay im not having any luck so far... ones backing out because its scaring her, another is telling me you should not be talking of the Jinn or they come to you, dam it lol so now what

She has given me the number of a sheik who's happy to discuss it but from past experiences some shieks can be as good as standing in front of the jinn itself

i did get some tiny snippet so far which is that when this lady was little, if she was a naughty little girl her mum would say
"stop misbehaving you are acting like the Jinn"

hmmm

anyways im still working on getting info from the one thats having the dtrong experiences so shall see how we go..

Unread post by **Jo Blose** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:11 pm

Horserider, your friend's theory of not talking about the Jinn or they come to you is alarming because I've actually lost count of how many times you've typed the word "jinn" or "jinns" in this thread!!!

As a precaution, I suggest standing in the middle of your room and spinning around as fast as you can at least fifteen times in an anti-clockwise direction. Afterwards if you feel any sort of dizziness, (any at all) it means the Jinn are on to you and to immediately repeat the procedure!

Let's test your friend's theory even further:

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If not for the hairs on my Jinny Jinn Jinn!

Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:34 pm

Joe...Now that's funny..rofl...

Jinny Jinn Jinn...rofl.

Oh man I got to get a life.

Unread post by **horserider** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:56 pm

Thats frikken hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im not easily scared am i?!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

When she said "P.S. its not really a subject you want to be talking about"

The first thing i thought is oh shoot, ive only typed it one million times in threads & started asking myself "hmmm but does typing count?" ahahahahahahahahaahaa!

Well guys i guess having a girl on here who's a bit of a chicken can spice it up on here, must be entertaining watching me come out of a corner marching bravely than go charging back to it again like a little crab tee hee hee hee hee!

Okay so Jinn jinn jinn jinn jinn jinn jinn , ive said it now enough times to reverse it, that means i can still talk to the other chick about her experience!!!!!

oh dear

Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:31 am

I had a martini and the jinn got me..

I picked up a jinn in the pub and went back to her house...

I'm just haveing some fun..

Unread post by **horserider** » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:18 am

bahhahahahaa

Was her name Jinny?

You werent the only one with Jinny in your bedroom... late last night there was a blow fly on my light globe, at 2am after all this Jinn talk it started to look like one

okay im being

sorry no more ill stop now

Unread post by **Jo Blose** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:18 pm

Sipping on a jinny chino:

This thread has covered belief systems which each attempt to neatly explain a range of phenomena including the Yowie. Us humans we love to generalise and simplify. The Jinn concept is no different.

I appreciate what you're saying SAB, but at least the author of that site backs up his conclusions from his own personal experiences. What that author does not do is offer an explanation of how the "jinn' came into being, and exactly what they are. All he declares is it is responsible for a range of different weird experiences that appeal to our belief systems on some level and seemingly validate those beliefs, but never enough for anything to be proven.

What this author does do that others don't, is offer an explanation as to why progress in the fields of ufos, yowies, etc. is still at ground zero. I for one would like to think we have or are, making progress in these fields of interest, but have to wonder.

Unread post by **horserider** » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:06 pm

Joe Black overall you could almost say that the author is kind of being more realistic OVERALL, i think this is why i liked it.

If you dont look at it properly & just skim over it than no you wont see it as him being realistic but if you do look at it properly you will see that although its a broad theory he is realistic in his approach.

I can see where sab 8 is coming from too but if you see the authors more realistic (on our level) it will prompt you to want to look at his site again from scratch, it did for me anyway. As hard as it can be to keep an open mind sometimes, it can be wel worth it sometimes as it may lead to more questions!!

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